• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Resetera and the pedo problem (updates)

Status
Not open for further replies.

Bryank75

Banned
You all already posted this but I can't stress enough how great of a take this is.



He shared some of my concerns with some of the OPs statements too. Still one reaching statement or not, her and the other users of this thread have done excellent work!

Don't think he mentioned the grooming and underage sex with a 15 year old though. But it's a start.
 
its the same shit that happened with THQN. Media didnt pick it up, because guilty by association is a farce and goes no way. Its petty and shines a bad light on some users here. just because resetera does it, doesnt mean we should do it.









First page of google search only.

It was covered, heavily. Same about Neogaf's downfall.

I agree that people don't care that much overall, especially when we're speaking about a relatively small discussion board. I knew that from the beginning, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't speak about it.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'll defintely stop posting for now unless something big happen on Resetera's side. I know I've already said that earlier, but at that time I'm done. There's no need to anymore.

Resetera's hypocrisy is in plain sight now and it's hard to argue that the more we dig, the more serious it gets. The story already got a lot of attention, Resetera's staff are purging everything, made some weird decisions, tried to shift the blame many times... Plus, we're not speaking about whether jacking off to "loli" is pedo or not anymore.

I've been following the reactions from some places, it's obvious some people have a clear agenda. Some others are trying to downplay the whole thing because they feel personally offended at people being weirded by minors depictions or pedo tendencies being displayed publicly, for some reasons. :messenger_winking:

I'm one broke woman and Resetera have something like 20 moderators, 7 admins and 40,000 zealots ready to throw themselves into a wild fire to defend Resetera's honor. They also have money and contact I don't have. I would like to thanks the few people who helped me, really. You weren't a lot. We did all of this by being 3 or 4 people, just imagine if more people cared. It would have went massive. I did my best though, I slept very little for 3 days straight and I value my health more than all of Resetera's shenanigan. Plus, diving into those kind of stuff isn't really healthy for your mental.

I'm open to mature discussions with Resetera's staff or members featured in the OP. I've already tried to contact some of them, SinCityAssassin SinCityAssassin L LordKano for exemple (without any answer back). If they want to talk to me, in a civil manner, without trying to silent me, I'll consider what they have to say.

I also would have preferred Resetera's staff to contact me at some point, just saying that, yes, they fucked up, but that all of those problems would be addressed seriousely from now. That they're changing stuff on the way they're handling those matters. Instead of just trying to downplay everything, sweeping things under the rugs, protecting their precious deviant members until exposed in plain sight, like they did from the beginning.

Just as a quick reminder : If Cerium had looked into the proof I gathered instead of brushing it off, 6 months ago, the problem would have been resolved very fast and I would never have went public about it. I gave him months before going public.

Mature discussions are invaluable, especially in those cases.

I've gave every proof/elements I had left to someone I trust. In case I miss some development, he'll post them in my stead by logging into my account on Neogaf. I'll step back for now, but I'll keep watching from afar now, unless Resetera's makes another weird decision toward me. I promised I'd an interview to someone who contacted me though and a promise is a promise.

If anyone wants to contact me for any matters, please do it through Neogaf pm.

Thanks for the people who cared, thanks for the people who gave this the attention it deserves. :messenger_smiling_with_eyes:
 

Bryank75

Banned








First page of google search only.

It was covered, heavily. Same about Neogaf's downfall.

I agree that people don't care that much overall, especially when we're speaking about a relatively small discussion board. I knew that from the beginning, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't speak about it.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'll defintely stop posting for now unless something big happen on Resetera's side. I know I've already said that earlier, but at that time I'm done. There's no need to anymore.

Resetera's hypocrisy is in plain sight now and it's hard to argue that the more we dig, the more serious it gets. The story already got a lot of attention, Resetera's staff are purging everything, made some weird decisions, tried to shift the blame many times... Plus, we're not speaking about whether jacking off to "loli" is pedo or not anymore.

I've been following the reactions from some places, it's obvious some people have a clear agenda. Some others are trying to downplay the whole thing because they feel personally offended at people being weirded by minors depictions or pedo tendencies being displayed publicly, for some reasons. :messenger_winking:

I'm one broke woman and Resetera have something like 20 moderators, 7 admins and 40,000 zealots ready to throw themselves into a wild fire to defend Resetera's honor. They also have money and contact I don't have. I would like to thanks the few people who helped me, really. You weren't a lot. We did all of this by being 3 or 4 people, just imagine if more people cared. It would have went massive. I did my best though, I slept very little for 3 days straight and I value my health more than all of Resetera's shenanigan. Plus, diving into those kind of stuff isn't really healthy for your mental.

I'm open to mature discussions with Resetera's staff or members featured in the OP. I've already tried to contact some of them, SinCityAssassin SinCityAssassin L LordKano for exemple (without any answer back). If they want to talk to me, in a civil manner, without trying to silent me, I'll consider what they have to say.

I also would have preferred Resetera's staff to contact me at some point, just saying that, yes, they fucked up, but that all of those problems would be addressed seriousely from now. That they're changing stuff on the way they're handling those matters. Instead of just trying to downplay everything, sweeping things under the rugs, protecting their precious deviant members until exposed in plain sight, like they did from the beginning.

Just as a quick reminder : If Cerium had looked into the proof I gathered instead of brushing it off, 6 months ago, the problem would have been resolved very fast and I would never have went public about it. I gave him months before going public.

Mature discussions are invaluable, especially in those cases.

I've gave every proof/elements I had left to someone I trust. In case I miss some development, he'll post them in my stead by logging into my account on Neogaf. I'll step back for now, but I'll keep watching from afar now, unless Resetera's makes another weird decision toward me. I promised I'd an interview to someone who contacted me though and a promise is a promise.

If anyone wants to contact me for any matters, please do it through Neogaf pm.

Thanks for the people who cared, thanks for the people who gave this the attention it deserves. :messenger_smiling_with_eyes:
I'm gonna keep mentioning it as much as possible, this needs to be exposed to the wider gaming community and mainstream.
Anyway, if you need a break from the stress that's understandable but would be cool if you wanted to come back and chat here in future!
 

Dr.Guru of Peru

played the long game
You’re not going to make any friends with passive aggressive jabs (which you’ve been occasionally popping back in to do for over a year now) like “this thread is moving way too fast for NewGAF standards”. Then you skip over all of the rational discussion to focus on one exaggerated comparison that you don’t think is apt just so that you can make a lazy equal-but-opposite comparison (“reminds me of something...”). Honest question my ass.

This is literally the fasting moving thread in NewGAF history. So yeah, it's hard to keep track of whats what. But I read the OP, and the page I posted that on had several mentions of someone raping and murdering an 8 year old child. Judging by your lack of response, I'm guessing that it was hysteria? Sorry that you take it personally when I call that out.

P.S. I've been posting on GAF consistently as my primary online community for 20 years. I'll keep "popping in", thanks.
 
Last edited:

royox

Member
I'm an era member and part of this discord.

These are serious accusations you shouldn't use with so many bullshit elements, falseness and approximations. Unless you try to do it for malicious purposes.

I didn't post here since the great fuck up, and this kind of thread really makes me remember why.

1) Yikes!
2) Oh sweet summer child!
3)"This!! So much this!!!"
4)I'm literally shaking
5)Oh Boy

What Resetera answer should I pick in this situation? :messenger_beaming:
 

demigod

Member
lol, who was contacting their employers or is he making shit up? I'm guessing the latter. So they're protecting pedos now I see, which they accused Evilore of doing. Buncha hypocrites.
 
Last edited:

Michele

you.
This is literally the fasting moving thread in NewGAF history. So yeah, it's hard to keep track of whats what. But I read the OP, and the page I posted that on had several mentions of someone raping and murdering an 8 year old child. Judging by your lack of response, I'm guessing that it was hysteria? Sorry that you take it personally when I call that out.

P.S. I've been posting on GAF consistently as my primary online community for 20 years. I'll keep "popping in", thanks.

Ewww, that is disgusting... I mean that thread or page.

Anyways, Celine, thanks you for the support.
 

Raph64

Member

giphy.gif
 
Last edited by a moderator:
I'm an era member and part of this discord.

These are serious accusations you shouldn't use with so many bullshit elements, falseness and approximations. Unless you try to do it for malicious purposes.

I didn't post here since the great fuck up, and this kind of thread really makes me remember why.
Did you just insult me ?!?

Lol

Have fun guys, I wouldn't want to spoil your little party

Go back to your little echochamber then bye bye
 

Starfield

Member
IN case the messages or the thread on ERA get deleted aswell someone should archive them aswell.

Also relevant: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&channel=trow&q=loli

I didn't want to take a thousand screenshots so I just recorded me browsing through everything. I found alot of loli art, "im going to jail for this" jokes and so on, 4chan porn links, twitter porn links, other stuff, weird stuff, basically abit of everything. This goes way back to 2017. Discussing the banning of amirox, evillore shower debate, gaf splitting up to era and on and on. but look for yourself!

And if youre not able to anymore well yeah... see above post
 
Last edited:

plushyp

Member
This is literally the fasting moving thread in NewGAF history. So yeah, it's hard to keep track of whats what. But I read the OP, and the page I posted that on had several mentions of someone raping and murdering an 8 year old child. Judging by your lack of response, I'm guessing that it was hysteria? Sorry that you take it personally when I call that out.

P.S. I've been posting on GAF consistently as my primary online community for 20 years. I'll keep "popping in", thanks.
There was no "hysteria" but Airbus Jr Airbus Jr was discussing hypotheticals by citing it as an example as seen here: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/resetera-and-the-pedo-problem-updates.1487380/post-254575597

The answer to your question was just one page behind from your original post here which is what Papa Papa was indirectly alluding to: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/resetera-and-the-pedo-problem-updates.1487380/page-12#post-254575777
 

Bill O'Rights

Seldom posts. Always delivers.
Staff Member
Folks, as you can imagine this thread has generated a significant amount of reports. While the aim of some were to stifle the debate and just rejected by the team, others were more about the OT experience. As the topic caught fire and it was fast moving we didn't want to be too hands-on during a 'developing incident'. It seems to be slowing down now so we're just having a chat on what to do. The options are to merge into the main community offsite thread, or just move to OT and leave a perm redirect for off site linking and maybe close the 'reflects' thread. Any thoughts? We just want to throw this out there so there's no suspicion/raised eyebrows when we do eventually move it. It's purely about giving OT their light hearted, drama free board back while keeping this one open for those interested in a more suited sub board. We will consider thoughts and any input as always. We'll probably plan to move it in the next hour or two if there's no strong objections/compelling counter points.
 

cr0w

Old Member
Move it to one of the other boards merging it into the main thread will just be confusing.

That being said, reading a bit back I saw someone say that people have been scouring the Discord logs and contacting peoples' employers (or trying to at least)? While the schadenfreude is nice, if people are actually doing that y'all need to pump the breaks a bit. As many red flags as this stuff raises, there's still a lot of reading into shit that's going on that's being fueled by an extreme amount of confirmation bias here. Don't immediately turn to the ERA playbook out of a desire to stick it to people you don't like. If there's any fire behind the smoke, it'll burn its way out.
 

Lady Bird

Matsuno's Goebbels
Folks, as you can imagine this thread has generated a significant amount of reports. While the aim of some were to stifle the debate and just rejected by the team, others were more about the OT experience. As the topic caught fire and it was fast moving we didn't want to be too hands-on during a 'developing incident'. It seems to be slowing down now so we're just having a chat on what to do. The options are to merge into the main community offsite thread, or just move to OT and leave a perm redirect for off site linking and maybe close the 'reflects' thread. Any thoughts? We just want to throw this out there so there's no suspicion/raised eyebrows when we do eventually move it. It's purely about giving OT their light hearted, drama free board back while keeping this one open for those interested in a more suited sub board. We will consider thoughts and any input as always. We'll probably plan to move it in the next hour or two if there's no strong objections/compelling counter points.
I'm against merging this with existing threads, or it'll be a mess to navigate through. Besides, it's possible that this thread may still be updated with relevant info in the future, so it should be kept separate.

I think it should be moved to OT, but having 3 on-going Era threads there is absurd. I propose closing one of them (the 'resetera reflects' one, as it has become pretty much redudant with with 'Off-site Community Discussion' thread).
 
Last edited:

Tesseract

Banned
Folks, as you can imagine this thread has generated a significant amount of reports. While the aim of some were to stifle the debate and just rejected by the team, others were more about the OT experience. As the topic caught fire and it was fast moving we didn't want to be too hands-on during a 'developing incident'. It seems to be slowing down now so we're just having a chat on what to do. The options are to merge into the main community offsite thread, or just move to OT and leave a perm redirect for off site linking and maybe close the 'reflects' thread. Any thoughts? We just want to throw this out there so there's no suspicion/raised eyebrows when we do eventually move it. It's purely about giving OT their light hearted, drama free board back while keeping this one open for those interested in a more suited sub board. We will consider thoughts and any input as always. We'll probably plan to move it in the next hour or two if there's no strong objections/compelling counter points.

amazing post, the transparency here is dope as fuck

no thoughts or objections, do what you must
 
Last edited:

CyberPanda

Banned
These threads should be interesting to read after this whole scenario going on in this thread:


 

JORMBO

Darkness no more
Folks, as you can imagine this thread has generated a significant amount of reports. While the aim of some were to stifle the debate and just rejected by the team, others were more about the OT experience. As the topic caught fire and it was fast moving we didn't want to be too hands-on during a 'developing incident'. It seems to be slowing down now so we're just having a chat on what to do. The options are to merge into the main community offsite thread, or just move to OT and leave a perm redirect for off site linking and maybe close the 'reflects' thread. Any thoughts? We just want to throw this out there so there's no suspicion/raised eyebrows when we do eventually move it. It's purely about giving OT their light hearted, drama free board back while keeping this one open for those interested in a more suited sub board. We will consider thoughts and any input as always. We'll probably plan to move it in the next hour or two if there's no strong objections/compelling counter points.

Move this to the community forum and lock the older "reflects" thread. Don't merge anything because that will make things confusing.
 
D

Deleted member 752119

Unconfirmed Member
I'm against merging this with existing threads, or it'll be a mess to navigate through. Besides, it's possible that this thread may still be updated with relevant info in the future, so it should be kept separate.

I think it should be moved to OT, but having 3 on-going Era threads there is absurd. I propose closing one of them (the 'resetera reflects' one, as it has become pretty much redudant with with 'Off-site Community Discussion' thread).

Yeah, that’s what makes the most sense. That Resetera Sucks thread was always rendundant IMO. No need for more than one cross forum drama thread j less for a major new development like this news/thread IMO.
 

JD_Shadow

Neo Member
Well, I just tweeted this to a YouTuber I know of, Liana Kertzner. She does great work and has been burned by game journalism in the past. She mentioned a few interesting things:

- She was not aware of this issue before I tweeted the link to her.
- she doesnt like getting into private chat messages (not sure if that is what many are squemish about), but she agrees with the hypocrisy being there
- She might not be fully aware of what has been going on at ResetEra (as in the doxxing of the CDPR employee, the activism, their recent involvement in the Sony censorship activism). She's heard of how they have treated people, but I don't know if she knows how much they seem to be at the forefront of many of these issues without anyone taking enough notice about how much power and pull they could have.

I've also posted this to the GGDiscussion subreddit (a subreddit meant to find common ground in the two sides of the Gamergate controversy and to have a more rational debate instead of the mudslinging that happened). Their reaction is much the same about the pedo talk itself but their main problem is also what kind of message is this sending about their double standard and hypocrisy.

But, though I don't recommend harassing her or the subreddit, I think that Liana would be great to be able to at least discuss it.
 
Oh sweet child lol

You took GAF’s history of pedophilia. That’s why you are scrubbing your discord’s and threads and we are just shit posting and liking butt thread posts.

Humor ok...

Knock knock

Who’s there?

GAF’s pedo history

GAF’s pedo history who?

GAF’s pedo history is your current history
 
Last edited by a moderator:

JordanN

Banned
Oh sweet child lol

You took GAF’s history of pedophilia. That’s why you are scrubbing your discord’s and threads and we are just shit posting and liking butt thread posts.

Humor ok...

Knock knock

Who’s there?

GAF’s pedo history

GAF’s pedo history who?

GAF’s pedo history is your current history
Sometimes I feel bad for Resetera, because they come across as just braindead robots who lack any sense of self awarness.

They think that by having "numbers" they can spew whatever they want, when all it really means is you just have a bigger brainwashed crowd operating in an echo chamber, that's all.

Remember, QUALITY always trumps QUANTITY.

QqbZ8dv.png
 
Last edited:

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Oh sweet child lol

You took GAF’s history of pedophilia. That’s why you are scrubbing your discord’s and threads and we are just shit posting and liking butt thread posts.

Humor ok...

Knock knock

Who’s there?

GAF’s pedo history

GAF’s pedo history who?

GAF’s pedo history is your current history

They were that GAF history. It left here and followed with them over there. :pie_roffles: :messenger_ok:
 

Papa

Banned
This is literally the fasting moving thread in NewGAF history. So yeah, it's hard to keep track of whats what. But I read the OP, and the page I posted that on had several mentions of someone raping and murdering an 8 year old child. Judging by your lack of response, I'm guessing that it was hysteria? Sorry that you take it personally when I call that out.

P.S. I've been posting on GAF consistently as my primary online community for 20 years. I'll keep "popping in", thanks.

Considering your post-split post history consists of nothing but hot takes and jabs at the new community, I’d say your history counts for nothing at this point. You aren’t the only one and you aren’t special. There was one person who used an exaggerated example to try to make a point. You ignored other discussion and misconstrued his example in order to take jabs at “NewGAF”. The Smollett and Kavanaugh threads were bigger anyway, so your point is invalid and just plain ignorant. Maybe you would’ve realised that if you actually participated and weren’t just keeping your account open to cast aspersions and sow discord when it gets too busy for your liking.

Yes, this thread has moved quickly, but there have been a lot of new people who signed up or returned just to post in it. It’s also the first major drama thread since E3, which had significantly boosted the user count prior to this thread being posted. GAF is on the up whether you like it or not.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom