On the Vita maybe.
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NPD September 2012 Sales Results [Up2: Madden, Fixed 3DS Minimum]
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On the Vita maybe.
KillerTravis
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Third parties are making tons of 3DS games though, in Japan. Same situation as DS were western third parties didn't care for it except for a few titles.
xxbrothawizxx63
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Definitely a necessary clarification.
BladeoftheImmortal
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So the other 2 consoles sold about 281k combined?
xxbrothawizxx63
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Fifa is the EXACT same game on Wii as last year and the 3DS version is still a piece of crap without online and 15fps animations. There really is no reason for fans to pick up this year's iteration on those systems, especially if they didn't provide a particularly stellar experience in the first place.
On a different note....
Any word on KH3D's performance this month?
Petrae
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3DS is still lower YOY, despite a relatively new hardware revision and more software than last year. Not great, but higher than I expected.
360 continues its slide, but it's still #1.
PS3 is the big loser here. Worst YOY comparison (maybe -40%) of the year for Sony, and it fell behind 3DS for the first time in quite awhile. Not a lot to be proud of if you're Sony right now.
FIFA on Vita is the exact same as the one released earlier this year.
xxbrothawizxx63
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At least it was an acceptable version to begin with...
OldJadedGamer
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Depends on the state. My state still has no tax on Amazon.
That has been true for every PS3 unit, not just the extra slim.
Baconsammy
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The bump from all the people that Sony claimed wanted a better value. I guess maybe they didnt want a better value afterall.
I hear it's quite good on PS360PC
Bruno MB
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NPD September 2011
Playstation 3: 364K-374K (Calculations deduced from Sony and MS PR percentages) [+16.7-19.8%]
Is this correct?
[360] 270k (49 percent share of current-generation console sales)
[PS3] 218k - 224k (-40%)
[Wii] 57k - 63k (PS3 + Wii 51 percent share of current-generation console sales = 281k)
[3DS] 219k - 249k (PS3<3DS<250k)
Baconsammy
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It is. Great in fact.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Anyone think this Black Friday, all 3 bring out the big guns, Holiday Bundle-wise
Only 1 that might get a little iffy is NINty
Do you do an awesome 3DS bundle, which might eat sales from the WiiU or do you let it ride, sell a nice 3DS package right along with the WiiU launch
Only 1 that might get a little iffy is NINty
Do you do an awesome 3DS bundle, which might eat sales from the WiiU or do you let it ride, sell a nice 3DS package right along with the WiiU launch
xxbrothawizxx63
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It's sad that the 3DS couldn't sustain the same numbers it had last year even with the XL, but to be fair there was MUCH more to look forward to for the last holiday season. Even disregarding the beasts that were MK7 and SM3DL, there were at least other notable names (not necessarily quality wise) in the holiday line-up for casuals. The first half of 2013 looks a good deal more exciting than this holiday season.
Even average support has dropped off a cliff with the 3DS this year. I guess the lack of Wii versions of games this year helped out.
I wonder if Nintendo doesn't regret opting for a more DSi style update to the 3DS (better camera resolution, same build quality updates, more slight screen size update) but without the userbase segmentation.
Even average support has dropped off a cliff with the 3DS this year. I guess the lack of Wii versions of games this year helped out.
I wonder if Nintendo doesn't regret opting for a more DSi style update to the 3DS (better camera resolution, same build quality updates, more slight screen size update) but without the userbase segmentation.
leatherhat
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Vita numbers?
Just curious...
Just curious...
Well, not exactly. They improved the frame rate quite a bit.
KillerTravis
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It IS good, but obviously it'll appear shit for someone that doesn't like football to begin with.
Also RER and KI:U right after holidays.
creamsugar
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TTT2 < 100K (360 ver = 61%PS3 ver, PS3 ver > Vita HW)
Neat, was DoA tracked at all?
HawksWinStanley
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I wonder if the lockout helped NHL 13's numbers as hockey fans are starting to get desperate.
I think the problem is that gaming dedicated hardware is going away within two generations. It's just not worth it for a world that has phones that play games, goes on the internet, plays music, moves, etc, and only has limited pocket space and money.
Sony learned that even harder than Nintendo, since they priced Vita @ $250 which is good for what the system is, but impossible for a gaming dedicated platform. Can't justify it with consumers.
It's starting to get to where consumers can't even justify $199
KillerTravis
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I think the problem is that gaming dedicated hardware is going away within two generations. It's just not worth it for a world that has phones that play games, goes on the internet, plays music, moves, etc, and only has limited pocket space and money.
Sony learned that even harder than Nintendo, since they priced Vita @ $250 which is good for what the system is, but impossible for a gaming dedicated platform. Can't justify it with consumers.
It's starting to get to where consumers can't even justify $199
So the same can be said about consoles and PCs?
metalslimer
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I think the problem is that gaming dedicated hardware is going away within two generations. It's just not worth it for a world that has phones that play games, goes on the internet, plays music, moves, etc, and only has limited pocket space and money.
Sony learned that even harder than Nintendo, since they priced Vita @ $250 which is good for what the system is, but impossible for a gaming dedicated platform. Can't justify it with consumers.
It's starting to get to where consumers can't even justify $199
Japan is still a place where handhelds will not go away, so even if Nintendo abandoned the dedicated market here they couldn't over there. What will happen is Nintendo will be forced to go back to the actual market interested in these devices with a 99-130 device with 20-30 dollar games at most, with a great battery life.
Edit: Somewhat impressed Vita managed to be over 50k this month
So considering it was a 5 week month, Fifa + LBP Vita did at best to push hardware up about roughly 10k (on the assumption it wasn't too far from 40k last month). Ouch.
On the bright side, Borderlands 2 did great!
lunchwithyuzo
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It's weird how PES is almost the inverse: amazing on Wii, pretty good on PS2/PSP/3DS, shit on 360/PS3/PC.
Father_Brain
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Eh, not that impressive. It was a five-week month, and there were no retail software releases in either the July or August reporting periods.
metalslimer
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Oh, it's still an abysmal number, but it seems like 10k a week is the lowest Vita is going to go for a while. I was expecting the thing to drop even harder.
August was 4 weeks right, so that would mean Vita stayed flat right?
No, not in my estimation. They are not competing for pocket space. There is a unique and always important element to consoles in living rooms, and their usefulness continues to grow as they add in things like Netflix, HBO Go, Amazon Prime, Hulu, Internet, etc. These are things that look wonderful at the center of a living room, and they have as yet not been replaced by some other technology that can do what they can do but more. When that happens, we'll see.
But right now, it's handhelds on the chop block.
I don't know much about the Japanese market, but if I had to make a completely random guess...I feel even in Japan it will fade, just maybe a gen or two longer.
Or, well... as long as there is Pokemon, maybe not
metalslimer
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When you can have a tablet in a few years where you can take it on the go to a bunch of personal work and come back home plug it into the tv with an hdmi out and play high quality games on it consoles will be in a shit ton of trouble.
Until a multipurpose device can offer the full control necessary, they aren't going anywhere. Remember Japan plays full console games on the go and is one of the primary gaming sources over there as opposed to here where it's much more about bite sized games. The next mainline Dragon Quest or Monster Hunter doesn't seem likely to move anytime soon
BrokenEchelon
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I long for the day when FIFA outsells Madden.
Yup, 4 weeks for August but that's actually an increase for September since August was <10k weekly. Yay for tiny numbers I suppose?
I hope that day never happens.
Really, to me, the way to save the handheld market worldwide is to make a console-handheld hybrid. A TRUE console/handheld hybrid. Make a 'base' that expands the power and functionality of the console when plugged in at home, and then you can take it off the base and bring it with you and play specific handheld games on it.
This duality console would solve so many problems, because I think the desire to portable game with GOOD controls and such is still there, but it's just not something consumers are going to go out of there way to get anymore. So it has to be incentivized, and selling it with a console is the way to go.
Yeah, I guess also from what I understand the average home space is much smaller in Japan, and so handhelds and bite sized units are more prized? That's what I've been told by local GAF Japan experts
Phoenician_Viking
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The 3DS sold less than last September even though MK7, SML, NSMB2, and the XL are out. That´s really bad. Dedicated handheld gaming is dying in the US.
So Madden bundle helped the Vita. Let´s see what COD bundle will do.
metalslimer
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Or the market for expensive dedicated handheld gaming is dying. I would love to see how an actual budget handheld that Nintendo used to be known for would do. Also are you forgetting that the 3DS was still coming off a massive price drop last September? Still I don't know what Nintendo was thinking actually raising the price of the system.
It kept it relatively flat. 5 week reporting period vs 4 last month
Pretty good actually. NSMB's sales are all about legs.
AranhaHunter
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First quote tells me the Vita HW is between 50K and 100K.
Second quote tells me that the two TT2 SKUs sold less than 100k combined. PS3 version at the most being 39% of that split and PS3 version sold more than Vita HW. Implying that the Vita HW did not sell more than 39K which contradicts the first quote.
Am I missing something here?
theviolenthero
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Has their been a single 3rd party 3ds game that's actually been a success in the USA?
Seems like every game is a flop.
Seems like every game is a flop.
lunchwithyuzo
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SSF4, Sonic Generatons, Mario & Sonic, Skylanders, Lego stuff. Kingdom Hearts had an okay start too.
What notable 3DS game flopped this month?
AranhaHunter
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Indeed you are probably right, and the PS3 version is ~62K, so 50K<Vita<62K
WiiU should sellout through Christmas (with the expected low supply numbers, if nothing else). Might as well go all in with 3DS again this year like last year. $50 GCs, bundles, colors.
chertipros
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sonic generations, tales of the abyss, and street fighter weren't huge successes, but they all exceeded their publishers expectations
kingdom hearts is the biggest success by far.
sonic generations did all right too, but it had to take all its ltd to do a little more than 25k of kingdom hearts 3d's first month