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NPD Sales Results for September 2014 [Up1: Smash/HW/MK8, Destiny stats, 3DS HW]
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SwiftDeath
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18M - 19M with little actual thought put into it. WW LTD of course
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Imagine GT7
Gran Turismo has been almost irrevocably damaged by GT6 though.
Sure, it'll still be big but I think the days of it being a sales juggernaut are over.
Unless the next one looks photo-realistic and staggering visually. Which is entirely possible but knowing PD we won't see it until 2017.
CrankyKong
Member
This must be very cathartic for all the dudes that suffered through the PS3s worst years in 06-08.
Never thought I'd see Playstation this popular again
Never thought I'd see Playstation this popular again
SMOK3Y
Generous Member
it honestly never lost its popularity WW
PS4's release damaged GT7.
PdotMichael
Banned
Well, the PS4 has the better hardware, that means all the third party games are superior on the PS4, so if you don't care about the Xbox One exclusives there is no reason to pick the Xbox One over the PS4.
What's scarier is that will be around the time the console likely drops in price, judging by BoM's with new GDDR chips and die shrinks...
Thanks for responding.
Sony has a marketing deal with GTAV correct?
If so, they should announce a bundle for NA before black Friday.
GT6 bombed(For GT numbers) because it came out on PS3 while everyone was speaking about PS4
LiquidSolid
Member
Uncharted will probably come out in November, so we probably won't even notice the bump because it'll be selling like mad anyway.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
I was thinking closer to 15-16 million units WW a couple of months ago, but Sept really makes me think they are going to have an insane holiday season. If they've got the supply I could see a good 3.5 million being sold between November and December in NA alone. Though this is kind of dependent on how much Oct holds.
SwiftDeath
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There appears to be some level of co-marketing with GTAV although advertising has yet to fully kick off for it so it's hard to tell the extent of it.
I imagine that Sony will likely have some bundles for the NA market this holiday but are holding off announcements to boost current sales of the destiny bundle as others have already suggested in this thread. Sony will position their bundles towards walk-in shoppers [fairweather fans] and try to prevent cannibalization of the natural sales baseline for PS4. At least that's my thoughts on it
Predicting the future is hard. I'm sure my predictions will likely be crap.
Anyways October will likely be down for PS4 I think. Maybe breach 13M by start of November WW if they're lucky. I have to look over historic holiday numbers again but 18M is probably a strong possibility
Pretty sure Sony will sell out this holiday period. If they are still only manufacturing 1.2m a month and they've been selling about 1.2m a month they can't have stockpiled too many...I really expect an XB1 victory this holiday season due to no PS4 stock, unless prduction has been increased of course.
Good sales for Xbox One, and surprisingly high for PS4
I have a feeling Uncharted 4 is going to do huge numbers, a lot bigger than the previous installments in the series especially in the US
I think part of it is going to be due to the success of The Last of Us, but it seems the type of game that will really benefit from PS4 being the go-to console with the higher install base and lots of casuals
I have a feeling Uncharted 4 is going to do huge numbers, a lot bigger than the previous installments in the series especially in the US
I think part of it is going to be due to the success of The Last of Us, but it seems the type of game that will really benefit from PS4 being the go-to console with the higher install base and lots of casuals
I don't think they've been selling anywhere near 1.2M per month WW through the summer months. NPD has been around 200K each month, right?
So they can and will have stockpiled for the holidays.
That's just silly. Personaly I've never bought an even numbered GT. Can't wait for GT7.
ethomaz
Banned
PS4 hype damaged GT6.
The franchise is fine and it will sell over 10 million again even if 80 meta.
StealthGoblin
Member
Given demand, they've probably managed to negotiate more units to be produced.
We know Microsoft have a stockpile to work through, Sony are heavily reliant on their supply line.
wapplew
Member
They manage to sold 10m around 10 months, I still cant wrap my head around the idea of 1 plus million per month.
Where did all the PS4 sold to?
They announce 10million sold at the start of August, so they sold 5.8m in the first 6 months, with 1.2m production a month that's a stockpile of 1.4m, they probably just sold around 2m in September cutting the stockpile down by 0.8m to 0.6m. I don't think 0.6m is going to be enough of a stockpile...
Hopefully they will have upped production significantly, sales should be very strong through the holidays and continuing through past February which should be a huge month considering the releases now scheduled for Feb 2015.
What was ps3's holiday quarter number holiday 2007? that should give us some kind of baseline.
On the topic of Aqua and Cream, it's a sad day for GAF but what's done is done. Pointing fingers and placing blame won't exactly bring them back. Hopefully she'll return after she comes out of isolation. My belief about the internet is, once it's on the internet, it belongs to the internet. there is just no way around it.
Looks like Europe is really hot for new consoles.
lolosgolos
Banned
1)Install base difference of close to a million in favor of PS4
2)Not all customers will pickup Destiny as a free game with an X1 purchase as its optional and its always online which is a negative on the game
3)Its more likely to have a customer purchsing copy of Destiny than an X1 for Destiny
4)Promotion lasted 1 week if I'm not mistaken
5)Two or one free game promotion has been on since release of X1 in tier 2.
6)Destiny affiliation with Sony and first on DLC.
7)Convinient download purchase option with on X1
All the above are disadvantages of Destiny physical disc selling more on X1. Now if we use the free game concept, does it mean everyone who already owns a PS4 didn't buy Destiny because the amount of X1's sold in the month and at Ppls homes is already smaller than PS4. Why did X1 sell more?
2)Not all customers will pickup Destiny as a free game with an X1 purchase as its optional and its always online which is a negative on the game
3)Its more likely to have a customer purchsing copy of Destiny than an X1 for Destiny
4)Promotion lasted 1 week if I'm not mistaken
5)Two or one free game promotion has been on since release of X1 in tier 2.
6)Destiny affiliation with Sony and first on DLC.
7)Convinient download purchase option with on X1
All the above are disadvantages of Destiny physical disc selling more on X1. Now if we use the free game concept, does it mean everyone who already owns a PS4 didn't buy Destiny because the amount of X1's sold in the month and at Ppls homes is already smaller than PS4. Why did X1 sell more?
We don't know the split between retail copies and digital copies. But in Sony's press release, PS4 was the leading platform for Destiny worldwide. Microsoft also didn't boast about winning at retail which suggests that if you included digital sales, PS4 must have came out on top. But that last part is just a speculation on my part.
Nightengale
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Even if they don't, it seems like a rational approach to reduce supply for tier-3 countries to bulk up demand in tier-1.
Chobel
Member
Wait a sec, PS4 has the same attach rate as Xbone for an FPS game? That's somewhat impressive, xbox had always higher attach rate for shooter games, especially fps. I guess the marketing deals and the bundle sure worked.
LiquidSolid
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I seriously doubt they've just been sitting back and producing the same 1.2m per month they were last year. They've had a full year to adjust production and estimate holiday season sales, so they'd have to be stupid not to.
That the PS4's looking to surpass 20 million this year is insane to me. In January I predicted it'd sell 15 million, which seemed like a huge number for just the first year at the time, and it's still probably going to be way too low.
I also predicted that the Xbone would sell 10 million but that was probably too optimistic.
DustyVonEric
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If X1 only hit 3.5 in U.S, I don't feel they are hitting that in rest of the world.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
Unfortunate about Aqua.
I'm not sure people talking about Creamsugar were following the conversation properly.
The biggest blow to next months thread will be accuracy - we will get numbers somehow, even if its based on YoY calculations from previous estimated numbers, so the "OMG how bad is WiiU failing? / OMG is PS4 still kicking Xbone ass?" peanut gallery will get the ammo they need for their ongoing wars, but estimations based on estimations based on estimations adds compound margins of error that can end up being significantly off.
I'm not sure people talking about Creamsugar were following the conversation properly.
The biggest blow to next months thread will be accuracy - we will get numbers somehow, even if its based on YoY calculations from previous estimated numbers, so the "OMG how bad is WiiU failing? / OMG is PS4 still kicking Xbone ass?" peanut gallery will get the ammo they need for their ongoing wars, but estimations based on estimations based on estimations adds compound margins of error that can end up being significantly off.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Imagine GT7
EU will go crazy.
Woah woah slow down there.
3.5 million in NA alone is way too high even for a beast like PS4.
360 (Nov + Dec)
06: 1.6 million
07: 2.03 million
08: 2.275 million
09: 2.39 million
PS4 is outpacing the 360 notably in NA but 3.5 million seems a bit high for a second holiday.
I'm guessing 2.5 - 3 million at most.
It just occurred to me that PS4 actually has a good chance of having the highest year 1 sales of any console which iirc belongs to the Wii at 20.5 million.
If we say PS4 will be at 13-13.5 million by the end of October then it needs to sell over 7-7.5 million to beat it.
What idea?
I'm really only interested in seeing if Inbombniac escapes the curse of Inbombniac with a more favorable press opinion (still really bitter about the nonsense they tossed at Resistance 1 and 3) and bundles. I think the game is a total miss for the typical Xbox demo but we shall see.
Why did Captain Planet hold up traffic in Midtown yesterday for 7 hours? WHY DID ARGENTINA SECEDE FROM MEXICO IN 1942???
I'M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS
Why did Captain Planet hold up traffic in Midtown yesterday for 7 hours? WHY DID ARGENTINA SECEDE FROM MEXICO IN 1942???
I'M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS
LiquidSolid
Member
Why'd you stop at 2009?
10: 3.23 million
11: 3.4 million
12: 2.66 million
3.5 million is probably a bit too high, I agree, but we'll see what happens. I don't think selling over 3 million is unattainable, though I think it's pretty safe to say it won't hit the Wii's 2009 record of 5.07 million.
Where'd you get the 20.5 million Wii sales in its first year?
Putting numbers in email tags so they're not spread around the internet by lurkers.
SDCowboy
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What happened with Aqua? What did I miss?
TheDarkKnight774
Member
What? Nooooo. I liked the emerging idea. We were going to get better info
hydrophilic attack
Member
Really sad about Aqua.
She was doing us all a service, and was trying to figure out a way to be able to keep doing it in the future.
If you are reading this, I hope you'll be feeling better soon
She was doing us all a service, and was trying to figure out a way to be able to keep doing it in the future.
If you are reading this, I hope you'll be feeling better soon
LOL Leave that poor man alone.
Sucks what I'm reading about Aqua and Creamsuger.
They shared info they didn't have to that was pertinent to the video game industry and of great interest.
It's a shame in particular that Aqua couldn't get consistent support from forum members regarding the info she shared and how to go about handling access to it. Surely someone providing such in demand info deserves better than that?
They shared info they didn't have to that was pertinent to the video game industry and of great interest.
It's a shame in particular that Aqua couldn't get consistent support from forum members regarding the info she shared and how to go about handling access to it. Surely someone providing such in demand info deserves better than that?
Aqua, if you're reading this, please don't leave GAF.
Take some well needed time to yourself, but don't leave GAF for good.
NPD threads will be nothing without you and creamsugar.
You come up with you're own way to handle leaks.
The email tag system was great, and it is unfair the criticism you got from a certain entitled few.
Take some well needed time to yourself, but don't leave GAF for good.
NPD threads will be nothing without you and creamsugar.
You come up with you're own way to handle leaks.
The email tag system was great, and it is unfair the criticism you got from a certain entitled few.
Rounded at the free end?
ProfessorMoran
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When you got a good thing going, it always gets ruined.
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