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It seemed I wasn't the only one that assumed the same thing and gave your opinion the benefit of the doubt at being a jab at MS instead of an illogical conclusion about an average game.Quazar said:
Just curious, but which is it anyway? Which console do you think will see better Final Fantasy sales? I just want to hear your opinion on it, it will give me a better understanding of your perspective.
Average game sees average sales sounds pretty average to me.And yes it's sad. You can list all sorts of reasons to why it didn't show up, but it doesn't change the fact it was released and did shittily. Being a fan of the game seeing it doing so shitty is sad, my friend. The only GAF effect I have is liking to post here.
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Has it really been that bad? We are in the 2nd month of sales from release are we not, what did it do in November? So maybe my headline should read: "Average Game sees shitty sales - Subhead: Thanks for nothing Lionhead and Bethesda." Crowded Q4, unpolished and non-marketed game a financial failure.Quazar said:
Well everyone said that GTA was a Sony franchise (speaking mind-share here) and that one surprised everyone. Now the reason I chose FF13 is it's the pretty much the king of Jrpgs in the west, so it should set the bar with its sales. The marketing push is going to be very telling, I wonder if both MS and Sony advertise it or it's left up to SquareEnix and they slap both logos on it. Either way, I don't think it matters.... NPD numbers are going in 360's favor.
That article is mistaken. On January 19, 2007, MS claimed that the first Gears had sold 3 million worldwide. That's actually in a slightly shorter timeframe too, due to a later European release. I wouldn't hold it against them... math can be really hard with all them flying corks and engine noises going on.Fredescu said:
The absolute numbers aren't the problem. It's what expectation for the game were that make that number surprising low. We don't know what MS' expectations were, but most people expecting this game to do better that that. Some where even predicting Halo 3-like numbers based on it now being an established brand, on larger userbase, and seeing November's results.
I find that highly unlikely. Gears 1 had sold somewhere over 5m copies as of the last PR. Gears 2 has done 4m copies in the first two months. It's still present in a number of PAL charts and obviously still selling in the US (although not as well it had obviously).JJConrad said:
Nope, no voucher program this year.Yes Boss! said:
If FFXIII is successful, then the chances of anything happening to Versus are extremely slim. That is why I am so hoping Sony drop the price for the PS3 in Japan and why I am so focused on PS3's performance in Japan.Dirtbag said:
Guy Legend said:
There's a difference between saying it's an error of categorisation and saying you have "zero idea" how anyone could think it's a shooter. The hyperbole is tiring. Halo as a fighting game is another example of that hyperbole. Halo is obviously a pure shooter, and saying that mistaking it for a fighting game is in any way similar to calling Metroid Prime a shooter is just being obtuse.Flying_Phoenix said:
Isn't japan still primarily a portables market? I thought the big home console markets were U.S. and Europe? Am I off-base here?Lightning said:
Sure its a better question, but it wasn't relevant to what we were discussing.
I think that's fair. I guess a big part of the discussion should center around when the game releases (as in what part of the year and alongside whomever else). I think even selling just 2million combined sales would be south of what they would consider a success, probably looking for something like 3 million+ combined
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Stick a fork in it the PSP is done.Guy Legend said:
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donny2112 said:Okay, Nintendo doesn't need RARE back, but they'd be in a lot better position for putting out games more consistently. RARE delays constantly. Nintendo delays constantly. Put them together, and you have a regular release schedule. :lol
They used to have Nintendo looking over their shoulders. It seems that a number of companies used to be better with Nintendo looking over their shoulders.
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Hey! I resemble that remark!donny2112 said:
Not much to go on this month, regrettably. That said, I have some things I've teased out of the public data that I hope will be interesting.donny2112 said:Any estimates on Wii software this month? This is the first month in a long time that Microsoft didn't take the opportunity to point out their tie ratio, so if you have a guess there, it'd be good, too.
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Flying_Phoenix said:Didn't IGN do the Dreamcast sales last year too? Like 2 copies for NFL2K1 and 1 copy of Virtua Tennis?
So the base, purpose, and design of the game isn't important but just how you attack? Makes sense.
Well no offense but I do see it that way. ...Let's save this for PMing HK and Fredusce.
I feel guilty of derailing this thread.
Well, this is the problem; people keep expecting Nintendo to downright copy genres, when they have never done that.beef3483 said:
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I don't remember people resorting to calling Halo or Mario Kart generic every time the little fanboy in them find no real faults. It's a crutch to diss a game, especially that has garnered solid grades all around.timetokill said:
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Wow, how much do you think a game needs to sell to warrant a sequel based on sales? LBP must be around or over 1M worldwide, and while that probably isn't what Sony execs were imagining in their lucid dreams, it must be enough to turn a huge profit for a game made by a team of 20 people. On the other hand, I don't think sequel for LBP can easily be made, unless they can somehow figure out how to transfer existing user levels over. They are probably going to keep expanding it, but some kind of completely reworked sequel with different gameplay mechanics and rules, seems like a pretty bad idea.OldJadedGamer said: