You have to be careful with an assumption like this. It's not one third of people who bought it, it's one third of accounts that played it. Those stats are actually pretty standard for most games. There will be many accounts that simply launch the game or show it at a friends and they would contribute to trophy data.
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NPD Sales Results for April 2015 [Up1: Xbox One #1]
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You have to be careful with an assumption like this. It's not one third of people who bought it, it's one third of accounts that played it. Those stats are actually pretty standard for most games. There will be many accounts that simply launch the game or show it at a friends and they would contribute to trophy data.
Microsoft can easily do that if they drop the price really low just to get the systems in the household's
Especially all the people who only still play their 360's
You really believe that?
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
Can't tell if sarcastic or not.
There is no momentum, sales did not go up from March to April.
Hell, they can just start giving them away for free if they REALLY want to get the system into household's
Drop it to 150, and a guy like me who has never owned an MS console will buy it up immediately.
Question being, is 150 doable? I think not.
Not until they freak out in November
Is it doable? Of course it is!... for like a month before Microsoft's investors demand they get rid of the Xbox brand.
Holidays 2016 maybe? It's super late considering the state of the 3DS but if they're not even ready to show anything at E3 there's no way it's launching much sooner... They probably expected the N3DS effect to last longer, god knows why.
Velcro Fly
Member
It would last longer if they made games for it instead of just a Xenoblade port.
March's major games were Codename STEAM (bad artstyle) and Fossil Fighters (always pretty small). April had Xenoblade 3D (Wii port exclusive to the N3DS). May has the Puzzle & Dragons bundle. After the N3DS launch Nintendo hasn't been putting much out for the system. It should do better when they start putting out some games. Of which there aren't any announced aside from Fire Emblem (2016) and that Animal Crossing spin-off (F2P?). Assuming we get Rhythm Heaven and Style Savvy, that still isn't much. Maybe they have high expectations of Yokai Watch. Hopefully we get a bunch of 3DS reveals at E3, because despite several recent announcements the system is looking really dry for something that won't get a successor until late 2016 at the earliest.
Chobel
Member
April sales are always down, but XB1 weekly sales were pretty much flat from March.
RandyBobandy
Banned
I had to quote this again because it is hilarious
Chobel
Member
It's basically the same. But my guess the sales were slow at first but, but it went up in the middle of April.
Thanks.
OK. So the MCC helped to keep the sales up, but for the most part just replaced the AC bundle then?
Chobel
Member
I guess yeah. But as Ty4on said, in normal cases April weekly should be down against March, which wasn't the case for XB1.
psn
Member
I don't think it's that far-fetched tbh.
highrider
Banned
I'm part of that. I got Bloodborne about a week after launch digitally, ( I'm American ) and probably am lucky to have two hours a week to play games. I just beat the cleric beast yesterday, probably be months before I finish the game.
Welfare
Member
Might as well repost this
XBO
YoY rise is 63%
MoM drop was 21%
March: 236k / 5 weeks = 47,200
April: 187k / 4 weeks = 46,750
PS4
YoY drop is 13%
MoM drop was 49%
March: 340k / 5 weeks = 68,000
April: 174k / 4 weeks = 43,500
Wii U
YoY drop is 10%
MoM drop is 49%
March: 85k / 5 weeks = 17,000
April: 43k / 4 weeks = 10,750
3DS
YoY rise is 9%
MoM drop is 56%
March: 265k / 5 weeks = 53,000
April: 116k / 4 weeks = 29,000
XBO
YoY rise is 63%
MoM drop was 21%
March: 236k / 5 weeks = 47,200
April: 187k / 4 weeks = 46,750
PS4
YoY drop is 13%
MoM drop was 49%
March: 340k / 5 weeks = 68,000
April: 174k / 4 weeks = 43,500
Wii U
YoY drop is 10%
MoM drop is 49%
March: 85k / 5 weeks = 17,000
April: 43k / 4 weeks = 10,750
3DS
YoY rise is 9%
MoM drop is 56%
March: 265k / 5 weeks = 53,000
April: 116k / 4 weeks = 29,000
peter42O
Member
Regarding price drops at E3, here's what I think Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony should do and what I think they will actually do -
1 - Microsoft
I think that Microsoft SHOULD unveil a slim model (without the power brick) and drop the price to $300 for the 500GB slim core console bundle.
In the end, I think that Microsoft ACTUALLY stays with their current console but lowers the price to $300 for the 500GB core console itself with no games included. Microsoft has Forza, Halo 5 and timed-exclusive Rise of the Tomb Raider for the last quarter of 2015. Along with a price drop to $300, this will be Microsoft's best opportunity to catch up overall with a chance to surpass Sony in NA.
2 - Nintendo
I think that Nintendo SHOULD drop the Wii U 32GB deluxe console to $200 with Nintendo Land. Wanting Super Mario 3D World or any other title would cost $60 for a total of $260 which for consumers is still a savings of $40 that could be put towards the Wii U Pro controller or another game. With the Xbox One price drop, staying at $300 would be near the end for Nintendo's Wii U. Also, if Nintendo is waiting until next year's E3 to reveal their next console, better off lowering the price of Wii U now and try to sell as many consoles as possible because once the next console gets released, Wii U will officially be dead.
In the end, I think that Nintendo ACTUALLY stays as is with the Super Mario 3D World bundle being replaced by the Splatoon bundle which is the main reason I don't see a price drop as the bundle comes out before E3 and is set at $300. No way Nintendo is refunding any amount of money. Nintendo is stubborn and will always be stubborn but im hoping that they change their ways when they launch their next console whenever that may be.
3 - Sony
In retrospect to it being the 20th anniversary of Sony announcing a $300 price tag for PlayStation back in 1995 which pretty much killed off Sega's Saturn on the spot, Sony SHOULD announce a price drop to $300 for the 500GB core console. Regardless of Microsoft dropping the Xbox One to $300 or not, I think this announcement would greatly hurt Microsoft and Xbox One. People can talk about this and that for Xbox One but let's be realistic - even when they win a month, it's minimal and that's with the console being $50 cheaper and including Halo: MCC or Unity/Black Flag.
In the end, I think that Sony ACTUALLY stays as is for another year simply because they don't need a price drop whatsoever. Even if Microsoft drops Xbox One to $300, it doesn't matter because at $350 and bundled games, Sony is still dominating overall an while their lead in NA is a small margin, they can hold it for another year simply because all they have to do is withstand Microsoft's last quarter of 2015 which I believe that they will. Even if Microsoft wins October, November and December, it won't make a difference whatsoever unless it's a total and complete demolishment which I don't see happening.
Add in the fact that the PS4 Batman bundle has been selling at $400 (or $450) and will continue to sell throughout June and the summer and like Nintendo, there's no way in hell that Sony is refunding anyone anything. A price drop would cause that to happen or piss of a lot of consumers who have pre-ordered this bundle or will do so by June 23rd.
1 - Microsoft
I think that Microsoft SHOULD unveil a slim model (without the power brick) and drop the price to $300 for the 500GB slim core console bundle.
In the end, I think that Microsoft ACTUALLY stays with their current console but lowers the price to $300 for the 500GB core console itself with no games included. Microsoft has Forza, Halo 5 and timed-exclusive Rise of the Tomb Raider for the last quarter of 2015. Along with a price drop to $300, this will be Microsoft's best opportunity to catch up overall with a chance to surpass Sony in NA.
2 - Nintendo
I think that Nintendo SHOULD drop the Wii U 32GB deluxe console to $200 with Nintendo Land. Wanting Super Mario 3D World or any other title would cost $60 for a total of $260 which for consumers is still a savings of $40 that could be put towards the Wii U Pro controller or another game. With the Xbox One price drop, staying at $300 would be near the end for Nintendo's Wii U. Also, if Nintendo is waiting until next year's E3 to reveal their next console, better off lowering the price of Wii U now and try to sell as many consoles as possible because once the next console gets released, Wii U will officially be dead.
In the end, I think that Nintendo ACTUALLY stays as is with the Super Mario 3D World bundle being replaced by the Splatoon bundle which is the main reason I don't see a price drop as the bundle comes out before E3 and is set at $300. No way Nintendo is refunding any amount of money. Nintendo is stubborn and will always be stubborn but im hoping that they change their ways when they launch their next console whenever that may be.
3 - Sony
In retrospect to it being the 20th anniversary of Sony announcing a $300 price tag for PlayStation back in 1995 which pretty much killed off Sega's Saturn on the spot, Sony SHOULD announce a price drop to $300 for the 500GB core console. Regardless of Microsoft dropping the Xbox One to $300 or not, I think this announcement would greatly hurt Microsoft and Xbox One. People can talk about this and that for Xbox One but let's be realistic - even when they win a month, it's minimal and that's with the console being $50 cheaper and including Halo: MCC or Unity/Black Flag.
In the end, I think that Sony ACTUALLY stays as is for another year simply because they don't need a price drop whatsoever. Even if Microsoft drops Xbox One to $300, it doesn't matter because at $350 and bundled games, Sony is still dominating overall an while their lead in NA is a small margin, they can hold it for another year simply because all they have to do is withstand Microsoft's last quarter of 2015 which I believe that they will. Even if Microsoft wins October, November and December, it won't make a difference whatsoever unless it's a total and complete demolishment which I don't see happening.
Add in the fact that the PS4 Batman bundle has been selling at $400 (or $450) and will continue to sell throughout June and the summer and like Nintendo, there's no way in hell that Sony is refunding anyone anything. A price drop would cause that to happen or piss of a lot of consumers who have pre-ordered this bundle or will do so by June 23rd.
1st Course
Member
We have vita numbers? All I remember we got is 2.5K for PSTV.
That could explain some of it.
Putting in the stuff I know that leaves a 15k gap assuming last gen prices were steady. I didn't use handheld revenue as I have no idea what SKUs sold what and isn't familiar with the prices in the US.
I need to look over my 2014 numbers though. I wasn't aware of gamecrate in time :/
Obliterator
Member
That Xbone performance is pretty damn good to be honest.
...Scatter...
Banned
Well that's silly. YOY there is momentum. You can't compare consecutive months. Seasonality plays a part.
Anyone know who is doing their backend, OS, and tool stuff for next gen? Can't imagine that will be in the NCL house. I think that if there are delays, the problems will be there.
YoY shows demand is slowly tapering off for PS4 at $400 MSRP. Definitely time for a price drop.
Nah that's a normal demand increase given the price differential between this year and last. Bundle price alone is a 30% price drop. Factor in the trade in deal and its a whopping 65% drop in price. Even factoring in the value of the games in the bundles maintaining their $350 price point (assigning $60 value to the bundled MCC or AC games) you get a 42% drop in price. That's a massive price differential and a significant YoY increase is to be expected when the MSRP of the product has dropped so significantly since the previous year.
DeNA is going to be helping out Nintendo with that sort of stuff... It was part of the Nintendo/DeNA mobile deal that DeNA would provide their expertise in regards to online services for Nintendo's dedicated systems and NX will be a part of that.
Welfare
Member
May is going to be worse as there is no Watch Dogs like game for the PS4 this month, and even last year, May was lower than April.
Agreed. Combine that with the likely impact of the June Batman Bundle siphoning sales from May and I honestly think it will be a really really low sales month for PS4.
Thanks Welfare, knew I had seen it somewhere but couldn't find it. Pretty good result for XB1, all things considered.
Obliterator
Member
Regardless of whether its expected or not its an impressive improvement and worth noting.
BlowoverKing
Banned
So we never got actual Vita numbers? I know they're probably bad but I'd love to at least know them. Either way considering Vita only did 3.3k last year and PSTV did 2.5k this year we know it's still up YoY.
ArchedThunder
Banned
I'm 100% positive it will come out in the second half of 2016, probably somewhere between September and November.
Dr. Feel Good
Banned
There has to be a serious shift in their approach to the market. 3DS has been out barely 4 years, which isn't even as long as the GBA. If they just release a beefed up handheld it will flop just as hard as the Vita. Mobile has destroyed dedicated handhelds and there's no way Nintendo can sustain the marketplace following the same old formula.
Nintendo needs to delay the next handheld to coincide with the release of the next console and integrate the two in a way that is actually meaningful.
The console/handheld schedule has only really once been in sync, and that was in 2001 with Game Boy Advance and GameCube.
Gunslinger
Member
Its official Console gaming is dying!!!
the combination of age and content makes this post exceptionally sad
It's all relative, considering that a year ago for April the XB1 was $150 more expensive (with TF included though), and the PS4 was at the same price.
I think the PS4 will win May and fare a little better than April, but June to July it should really shine with several exclusives (God of War remaster and probably Until Dawn, The Witness, Rature, Rime and a few others).
130k digital and physical
freefornow
Member
Late reply. So that's around 15% of total sales are digital. Wonder if that percentage holds true as the months go on.
Would 15% be good/accurate benchmark to estimate the digital sales of all titles?
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Well it did 80K in March, and that 130K was in like a week in Feb right? Given how software sales were before Mario Kart 8, I'd say it did relatively ok at the time (remember Mario 3D World only did 220K in 8 days during the holidays, right?)
Well, most retail titles we had a digital console percentage for were roughly around 10% from what I've heard, so Bloodborne's digital sales might be on the high side compared to say Assassin's Creed. In addition, PS4 games generally has higher digital adoption rate and thus a higher digital percentage than XB1 games do. Someone can correct me if I am wrong, though.
spatenfloot
Member
Ubisoft's latest financial report said that digital segment revenues were 26.1% of total sales. That wouldn't be entirely from console games however. Most publishers that give that info have been showing significant increases in the past year.