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NPD October 2011 Sales Results [Up1: All Hardware, BF/Batman/Rage, All PRs]
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bigtroyjon said:
There's a big difference between 180k and 300k. For instance, back in 2008 Resistance 2 sold a little better than LBP; this year, Resistance 3 sold about half of LBP2. Its sales were disappointing considering what we realistically expect from a Sony first party game, everyone and their mother already knew it wasn't going to match the 1m+ titles in the US.
OldJadedGamer said:
About 320k with the bundles then, thanks for the link.
Clear
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If you think about it, at this point in time who exactly are buying these machines? People just getting into gaming, and people buying replacements/upgrades - both things that would (I'd imagine) be affected very significantly by the generation up-to-now.
What I'm getting at is 360 *should* by all rights be outselling PS3 by some margin as its sitting on a very significant install-base lead at this point, that advantage giving them better "word of mouth" (in the broad sense that your peer-group is more likely going to have more 360 owners), and a bigger pool of upgraders to draw from.
Essentially, if the 360 wasn't doing better than PS3 by a factor roughly equivalent to their install-base advantage, something would be badly wrong.
Looking at Sony's offering, to be truthful I can't see a real reason why their performance should be improving more than it is. Software-wise they put out good exclusives, BUT they are the same exclusives they've been offering all this gen. A highly rated Uncharted is still only going to appeal to the people who liked the sound of its previous entries...
Bottom line for me is that really nothing much has changed on the software landscape since the start of this gen; and as a result why would anyone expect the status quo to change.
What I'm getting at is 360 *should* by all rights be outselling PS3 by some margin as its sitting on a very significant install-base lead at this point, that advantage giving them better "word of mouth" (in the broad sense that your peer-group is more likely going to have more 360 owners), and a bigger pool of upgraders to draw from.
Essentially, if the 360 wasn't doing better than PS3 by a factor roughly equivalent to their install-base advantage, something would be badly wrong.
Looking at Sony's offering, to be truthful I can't see a real reason why their performance should be improving more than it is. Software-wise they put out good exclusives, BUT they are the same exclusives they've been offering all this gen. A highly rated Uncharted is still only going to appeal to the people who liked the sound of its previous entries...
Bottom line for me is that really nothing much has changed on the software landscape since the start of this gen; and as a result why would anyone expect the status quo to change.
While you're not asking me, my personal bars have been:BurntPork said:
50% - Acceptable, but far from great.
75% - Good, considering it is the first year.
100% - Exceptional, given the library difference, price difference, and that it is the first year.
All comparisons are to last year's DS sales instead of first year DS sales.
That seems reasonable. I think it's safe to say that it'll stay well about 50%, though I'm not sure if I can see it hitting 100%. I think the best we'll see is about 80%. The market confusion is still an issue (and if it weren't, I think 3DS would have hit 300k last month).Nirolak said:
CrankyKong
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So 3DS sold about the same amount as it did last month but in 4 weeks instead of 5?
bigtroyjon
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If you are Nintendo and you are planning on selling 16m 3DS this FY, then 500K would probably be what it takes to consider your sales good.BurntPork said:
pharmboy044
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Infamous:FOB must have sold a lot. Excellent piece of software which deserves th sales.
velvet_nitemare
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Praise the sun!
The Antitype
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Absolutely AWESOME to see Rage in the top 10. Well deserved.
eternaLightness
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Really interested in seeing what kind of legs BF3 has in the next couple of months.
specialguy
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Gadfly said:
If you follow cheapassgamer and Amazon there's almost always some sort of credit or gift card deal going on on one of the various 360 SKU's. PS3 as well for that matter. I imagine it will be pretty nonstop until Christmas.
Looks like this coming week it's target: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=307777
Which means an Amazon match.
It's almost always the case at Amazon since they practically match everything. I can also tell Amazon just got through with one on the 4GB w/Kinect SKU because it's #3 on videogame bestsellers meaning it just had a credit deal to push it that high. A few days ago they had $100 credit on the 4GB w/Kinect.
specialguy
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I honestly cant tell if Rage sales are good or bad.
I guess a lot depends on their expectations. I have a funny feeling they were higher.
I guess a lot depends on their expectations. I have a funny feeling they were higher.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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DarkChild said:
They can't even get full paragraphs out at this point.
StickSoldier
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Kandinsky said:
It has the same problem it's have had since the release. There's just no AAA games except maybe SF4 and Zelda. It actually out performed what I thought it would, especially without any new titles coming out this month. But Like Iwata said, wait a bit and I bet the sales pick up a lot with Mario 3D Land and Mario Kart 7. Speaking of Mario Kart, could anyone post the sales for the Wii and DS games in NA?
See You Next Wednesday
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djplaeskool said:
FUCK YEAH!
Criminal Upper
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Don't think it'll take too long for the 3DS to start outselling everything come January.
Kung Fu Grip
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The PS3 just had a price drop. Only $50 but still.
Anybody have LTD's for the 3?
Edit- Nevermind. Saw them.
Anybody have LTD's for the 3?
Edit- Nevermind. Saw them.
Poimandres
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Sean said:
Does this number count STEAM sales?
Also, keep in mind that although it was in development for a long time the team working on it was relatively small. I do think it under performed, but fortunately not disastrously so.
Worldwide, it should ultimately reach a couple of million. Good enough for me!
Kung Fu Grip
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Because it should be doing way better.
Or are you saying who cares?
OldJadedGamer
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Globox_82 said:
Regardless of if you are a fan or not, it won't change anything so not sure why it would be unfortunate. The same first party games will be released and all the third party games will still come out.
Kung Fu Grip said:
If you are judging them by their past successes and previous statements before the gen started... then yes. It should be doing better.
Kung Fu Grip
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Well when you put it that way........OldJadedGamer said:
SimpleDesign said:
That's why I don't think they will. There is no need. Its old hardware and very profitable. Why get rid of it when it's making tons of cash. I think the grist reports of 2014-15 will be correct it would be stupid otherwise. The 3DS shows this. There was no need for an upgrade. It was selling gangbusters an try did and look at how the 3DS started.
bone_and_sinew
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I REGAINED faith in gaming seeing Dark Souls charting just outside the top 5. Wish it had outsold that Just Dance 3 garbage but still, very pleased it's where it's at.
TurtleSnatcher
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Poimandres said:
It doesn't include Steam.. but Steam isn't like 250k or something.. I mean most players online were like 25k when that game launched.
Likewise.. its performance and legs are gone.. Currently 700-800 are online playing RAGE on Steam. Dead Island has like 2x-3x more and that came out a month prior. (This also factors in RAGE having a sale just yesterday for 2 days)
Also their team size grew exponentially after the EA/Bethesda takeovers.. They went from a group of 20-30 for the initial 2 years to a team of 100+ for the remaining years. (Probably 1 year of in between that 30 and 100 number)