Mr. Blonde
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Hells yeah. The 5 best games of the year are looking to be Halo 2, GTA SA, MGS3, Ninja Gaiden, and ESPN NFL 2K5. One great year for games!
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New EGM Scores (Halo 2 = GTA:SA > MGS3 > MP 2)
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TheGreenGiant
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AniHawk said:
:O
TheGreenGiant
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]Teddman said:
meh. Where is chespace when you need him. At least you get some sort of objectivity/logic to his reasoning.
Let it be noted that I also wasn't really *into* the first Halo. Going solo was not a lot of fun. Though when I was playing co-op, it provided some really memorable moments
I would have held off on Metroid Prime 2 if it wasn't for the fact my sister was hospitalized, and I wanted to get her the preorder shirt. :| (This was BEFORE I sold my GC btw, early-October).
like the Great Escape at the end 
I would have held off on Metroid Prime 2 if it wasn't for the fact my sister was hospitalized, and I wanted to get her the preorder shirt. :| (This was BEFORE I sold my GC btw, early-October).
Teddman said:
You do understand that Anihawk is being facetious? Notice how he says that all three of those games are overated, but then lists his scores to be exactly the same as EGM's. Also there is no way you could have played through all three of these games (possibly two, but that's really stretching it). So you have no room to say which game is definitively better (even in your own opinion).
MightyHedgehog
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WOW! That's a lot of popcorn. What're they doing with all of that?
Cooking up a batch for their customers to throw during their performance.
"The Mummers' trademark is boisterous audience participation with ongoing cheers for the hero and his uprighteous comrades and boos and popcorn hurled at the villain. Popcorn sales last year totaled $40,000.00."
Sounds like fun. Wish they were closer.
TheGreenGiant
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Teddman said:
I have no problems with the scores. I think your attitude just comes across as bit up yourself. Instead of dissing MP2E as not as good, why not offer reasons. So, the world revolves around the EGM scores and your opinion? You review videogames for a living. That remark about opinions and assholes. I guess that's why there's more than 1 videogaming publication out there. They're all great games.
anihawk.. when did you play Halo2?
Mr_Furious
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I hate posts that make me have to look up the meaning of words :-\Teddman said:
I don't really want to seem elitist. It just struck me that all of the writers in this thread seemed reluctant to say what the scores clearly imply--that MP2 is the least of the bunch (even including MGS3).
On the other hand, I can't fathom why anyone would be bothered by a 9.3 score average. It just so happened that a lot of high-quality games came out in one month's time. In many other issues, MP2 surely would have taken GOTM.
On the other hand, I can't fathom why anyone would be bothered by a 9.3 score average. It just so happened that a lot of high-quality games came out in one month's time. In many other issues, MP2 surely would have taken GOTM.
TheGreenGiant
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Teddman said:
I guess that's that then. I think any idiot (okay not any idiot) can infer from the score that EGM thought MP2E is less good than Halo 2 and GTASA and MGS3. I'll reserve judgement til I played the rest (I though GTA SA is a 8.8 or thereabouts) Thanks for clarifying
AND don't forget R+C3. (again...) it did well.
That doesn't make any sense. Why WOULD they? Like you said, the scores suggest that MP2 isn't as good a game as those with higher scores. It's not as if anything in this thread has needed a reply to that. People* have only wondered what kept it from getting a higher scores besides the obvious "it isn't good enough".Teddman said:
* again, excluding werther
AniHawk said:Though when I was playing co-op, it provided some really memorable momentslike the Great Escape at the end
I don't get it, are you talking about the very last part where you escape with the warthog? Because that's the only level in the game that DIDN'T work in co-op. If you tried to go in separate warthogs, the one lagging behind was just teleported to the first player at a certain point, thus resulting in him losing his warthog IIRC. So he ends up being forced to run, unless the first player decides to wait for him to jump on. But with the time restrictions, it's a bad idea. And even if you go in the same car, there's not much of a point for the second player in shooting anything. There are just too many enemies coming at you anyway. I found it more disturbing than helpful when trying to drive, actually, since the controller was constantly shaking.
Naked Snake
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This will be the first EGM I buy in a year or so.
Kiriku said:
That's what made it memorable for me.
"GET IN THE WARTHOG! GET IN THE WARTHOG! Come on, there's NO TIME!"
Then at the end she was shooting at all the covenant guys with 15 seconds left running down that little path up to the escape ship while I told her to just ignore them and keep going. Adding some realism myself improved the experience I had with the game.
"GET IN THE WARTHOG! GET IN THE WARTHOG! Come on, there's NO TIME!"
Then at the end she was shooting at all the covenant guys with 15 seconds left running down that little path up to the escape ship while I told her to just ignore them and keep going. Adding some realism myself improved the experience I had with the game.
MightyHedgehog
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What are the other games that EGM has awarded 'all-tens' scores to?
1st game to earn such a distinction in EGM's history IIRC: Super Monaco GP 1 (Genesis)
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (N64)
Halo 1 (XBOX)
Metroid Prime 1(GC)
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (PS2)
What else?
1st game to earn such a distinction in EGM's history IIRC: Super Monaco GP 1 (Genesis)
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (N64)
Halo 1 (XBOX)
Metroid Prime 1(GC)
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (PS2)
What else?
AniHawk said:
I thought it was hard enough without having to wait for the second player though. With the sloppy handling of the warthog coupled with unexpected explosions around every corner and a seriously struggling framerate it became very, very frustrating on legendary. Both me and my friend had been having a lot of fun with the game, up until that point. And we couldn't just quit either, because then we would have to play the last level all over again.
And we couldn't just quit either, because then we would have to play the last level all over again.Kiriku said:I thought it was hard enough without having to wait for the second player though. With the sloppy handling of the warthog coupled with unexpected explosions around every corner and a seriously struggling framerate it became very, very frustrating on legendary. Both me and my friend had been having a lot of fun with the game, up until that point.
Well we only got it on the sixth or seventh try. Could've been more.
And yeah, the warthog handling sucks.
Society: I didn't want to spoil what little bit was of the last part of the game for the few people who haven't played Halo.
disabledHeliocentric
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Somebody seems to think EGM review scores are like the Koran or some shit.
Lets say I make some review scores(hypothetical).
MP: Echoes 10
MGS3 9
Halo 2 8
GTA: SA 7
According to this closed system MP2 is the best. gee. This means I'm right. You disagree? Look at my numbers. No explanation necessary. Refer back to itself. It has been written. I am an idiot. Weee. Fun.
(I'm not saying those are my scores. I've played none of those games and I think assigning games numbers and movies stars and the such is bullshit)
Lets say I make some review scores(hypothetical).
MP: Echoes 10
MGS3 9
Halo 2 8
GTA: SA 7
According to this closed system MP2 is the best. gee. This means I'm right. You disagree? Look at my numbers. No explanation necessary. Refer back to itself. It has been written. I am an idiot. Weee. Fun.
(I'm not saying those are my scores. I've played none of those games and I think assigning games numbers and movies stars and the such is bullshit)
CrimsonSkies
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"GTA:SA 10,10,10 (GOTM)
Halo 2 10,10,10 (GOTM)"
I haven't played Halo 2, but how does a game with the technical flaws of GTA: SA get 10's?
Halo 2 10,10,10 (GOTM)"
I haven't played Halo 2, but how does a game with the technical flaws of GTA: SA get 10's?
disabledHeliocentric
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Society said:
It's my inclination that placing a number next to the name of a game means nothing or at the least could mean any number of things unless there is an explanation using, say, the english language.
And if there's fault to be found it's usualy in the explanation as it relates to the number...heh... because that's what gives the number meaning. So, maybe I do find this cult of the review score misguided.
I'm sorry if I have put anybody out of having a good time blabbering up EGM scores, of if I come off as abrasive. I'm far more interested in the component of the review that has meaning rather than isolating the number from the actual review in which case devoid of context its meaning is so uncertain.
SolidSnakex
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CrimsonSkies said:
Because it's alot of fun?
CrimsonSkies
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"Because it's alot of fun?"
And 10's are now for fun? What is this GamePro?
And 10's are now for fun? What is this GamePro?
SolidSnakex
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CrimsonSkies said:
I prefer to know how fun a game is, and 10's usually give you a good idea of that. I'd imagine alot of people would stop buying mags if they started reviewing games based on technical merits alone.
Floyd
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Heliocentric said:
The one giving the numbers is fine. To me they are basically saying, here use these numbers as a guide to help you make a decision on your purchase.
Its when people take the numbers as something more than that. The result being criminally insane threads like this one.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Tetris is a lot of fun and will never score a perfect 10 on any reliable magazine. Fun is the most important part scoring a game, but not the whole thing. I can see EGM's staffers points and I respect their opinions but I can't share them.
From my standpoint I think that both GTA:SA and Halo 2 are incredible games, but none of them deserve such high grades. BTW I also disagree on Killzone's score (too high IMHO) but it is not like all of us should have the same criteria
From my standpoint I think that both GTA:SA and Halo 2 are incredible games, but none of them deserve such high grades. BTW I also disagree on Killzone's score (too high IMHO) but it is not like all of us should have the same criteria
disabledHeliocentric
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Floyd said:
I'm not trying to deny this point. I just think the numbers mean next to nothing without the writing that accompanies them. People can project whatever meaning they want to a number 10 but the connection between that 10 and a videogame EGM is reviewing is made with the writing in that review. This is where the review actually means something. There are countless EGM scores I've disagreed with but when I read what they say about the game I usually agree and I tend to hold what they say in higher regard than their scores which I often find faulty despite their keen insight and flashy wordplay.