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Warframe |OT| NINJAS IN SPAAAAACE - PC

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Tacitus_

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I've been playing this for the past week and it just isn't grabbing me. Usually I enjoy grinding for loot like this (hell, I liked Maple Story of all things) and there really isn't anything that I can point out to and say "I don't like this". Well outside of the game sucking at explaining stuff but trawling wikis isn't that big of a deal.
Does the game open up at endgame like Diablo or is playing solo/with randoms at fault here?
 

Sykotik

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Vauban Neuroptics is on a Jupiter alert right now. It was the last piece I needed and I didn't see it for weeks.

Edit: It's over.
 

Atomski

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Started getting into this lately and am really enjoying it. I am bumping into my first needs for platnium due to running out of weapon slots. I'm guessing I can just sell my old ones though.

How early on can you get items that actually sell for platnium to other players?
 

Rafy

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Started getting into this lately and am really enjoying it. I am bumping into my first needs for platnium due to running out of weapon slots. I'm guessing I can just sell my old ones though.

How early on can you get items that actually sell for platnium to other players?

You can open relics and sell the rare drops for plat. You can do that even with a few planets unlocked, I've gotten a decent amount of plat from selling Lith rare drops. I don't know if you have the derelict unlocked, but doing vault runs is another way to get good mods and make some plat by selling duplicates of the good ones.
 

Meester

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Lots of changes recently to various Warframes, their abilities updated, tons of weapon changes, new bosses on the Plains, new Tennogen, new Corpus open-world shown on Devstream, the other door opened on the ship [watch out for spoilers!] etc etc

Ton of changes to some Warframe's, looks pretty good so far - https://forums.warframe.com/topic/9...rames-revisited/?tab=comments#comment-9444873

Hail Tenno!

With big plans for 2018, it seemed like an appropriate time to revisit a core element of Warframe - the Warframes themselves! We spent most of January reading your feedback and analyzing gameplay stats, and as February kicks off we have some plans to share!

Each Warframe's stats and ability kits combine into a unique entity that offers different strengths and weaknesses. With 34 Warframes to choose from (and the 35th on the way), a Tenno may find there is no challenge they cannot overcome by making good use of the swiss army knife that their Arsenal offers. Some well-rounded frames do multiple things well, while others greatly excel in specific circumstances.

When reviewing the Arsenal over time, our developers often find themselves asking: 'is this fun?'. That's the most important question to us, from the perspective of both the active player and their three squadmates. We understand the importance of power fantasy, but overbearing abilities can make squadmates feel ineffective by seriously disrupting intended gameplay flow. Conversely, when a Warframe doesn't do enough, players may simply choose a "better" frame, sacrificing personalization and diversity for efficiency. Neither of these situations are ideal, so let's shake things up!

Everything you're about to read is subject to change. In response to statistics and player feedback, we are planning the following adjustments to Warframe abilities and Augments (appearing in alphabetical order!):

ASH

Bladestorm - Upon activating Bladestorm, Ash's clones will do the stabbing, leaving the player free to act. Ash can choose to join in the execution by using Teleport on a marked enemy.

As one of three "stealth" frames that offer invisibility, Ash serves as a more offensive alternative to Ivara and Loki. In practice, his Bladestorm ultimate falls short of those expectations - although the ability is sufficiently lethal, players would be locked into cutscenes as Ash and his clones finished the job on marked targets.

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With the above changes, the Ash player can continue moving and shooting after activating Bladestorm, while his clones do the dirty work! Plus, as an added feature, if a player wants to take advantage of the invincibility offered by the cutscenes (or just thinks they look cool), they can use Teleport on a marked target after activating Bladestorm to join in on the stabbing fun.

ATLAS

Rubble (new mechanic) - Comes from killing petrified enemies. Atlas collects rubble to restore his health, or temporarily increase armor if already at max health.

Landslide - Does bonus damage on petrified enemies. Killing petrified enemies with Landslide generates bonus rubble. We have also increased the contact radius at max rank from 1.5m to 2m.

Petrify - Can use Petrify on Tectonics' bulwarks to increase rolling velocity and damage. Can also be cast on Rumblers to heal them. Able to cast any ability while Petrify is active - use Landslide to move between enemies or erect rumblers and bulwarks, without Petrify ever turning off! Petrifying speed is also more effective at longer ranges now.

Rumblers - While casting, creates an AoE around Atlas that will petrify any enemy that comes close. Rumblers create rubble when they expire, based on how much health they had.

Released in late 2015, Atlas fills the role of a beefy brawler Warframe. While his first ability Landslide really packs a punch, the rest of his kit falls short in comparison to other frames. We saw this reflected in Atlas' usage stats, where he was the generally the least-used frame that didn't have a Prime variant.

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Similar to other recent reworks, we aim to give Atlas more synergy between the abilities at his disposal. Petrify is now a versatile ability that does not limit the casting of other abilities, and can be used to buff bulwarks and heal Rumblers. Introducing the Rubble mechanic improves Atlas' survivability, while rewarding players for taking advantage of the frame's synergies. The instant AoE Petrify upon casting his Rumblers ultimate also helps protect players during the cast animation.

BANSHEE

Resonating Quake (augment) - Upon cast, places a Quake that does not require channeling to maintain, meaning Banshee can move freely. Has a short duration, and does not move with the player. Has double the range of a regular Soundquake, but does more damage near the center.

Banshee's abilities fill both offense and support roles, offering damage boosting, crowd control, and area of effect capabilities. But for many, her gameplay has become centralized around an augment for her ultimate, Resonating Quake. Since sound waves can hit through walls, the humongous area of effect can prevent enemies from getting anywhere near the objective, while the casting player is left with nothing to do but wait. From our own public play experiences, Resonating Quake is what we as creators of Warframe find to be the most unfun ability- "I want to enjoy this horde shooter, but where are the hordes?"

Instead of creating a less effective version of the same augment, Resonating Quake will now offer an alternative playstyle, providing a stationary Quake that does not restrict player movement. The augment will still lock down a very wide area, but with a short duration and less damage on the outskirts of the Quake, it should be less effective at killing enemies your squadmates cannot yet see. Effective usage will now require frequent casting and strategic placement, encouraging a more active playstyle.

CHROMA

Spectral Scream - Removed walk speed and jump restrictions You can now freely move while this is active! Damage output is now also affected by the Vex Armor's Fury bonus!

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Vex Armor - Fixed a longstanding issue with number calculation being multiplicative. Boosts now apply before upgrades instead of after, making the ability consistent with all other damage boosting abilities. Overshields are now considered for Vex Armor. Chroma's Vex Armor remains one of the top performing damage-multipliers in the game - and it's now an aura! Instead of just being focused on Chroma, it can now benefit allies in range.

The only change that comes with a full history lesson!

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/788574-octavia’s-anthem-hotfix-2023/

Fixed an issue where Chroma would deal no damage with Vex Armor active. While this may sound like a simple fix, if you're a Chroma user please read on!\ Solving Vex Armor actually takes as back to Chroma's beginning. On original power creation, we used some less-than-ideal calculation methods to create Scorn and Fury's effects. If you are an avid Chroma user, you probably know the power maximizing this ability brings. At some point in Chroma's future we will need to revisit and use ideal methods for his Abilities; we will inform you well in advance when Chroma is under review."

Chroma is a complex frame that players usually acquire further on in their Tenno journey. As referenced above, much of that complexity stems from some questionable back-end calculations, which caused Vex Armor to calculate damage boosts AFTER upgrades instead of before. Although the UI may indicate that damage/armor is buffed by a few hundred percent, the actual buff amounts would be much higher. Furthermore, compound elements would effectively be multiplied twice for Fury's damage boosting, leading to some ludicrous results.

Back in April 2017, extreme damage boosting was not really a problem, so we left the ability as is. However, the Plains of Eidolon update marked a shift in community mindset by introducing Teralysts - featuring multiple large health pools on each weakpoint, damage boosting abilities became an important part of efficient hunting teams. While other damage boosting options require more team coordination, a single self-damaging Chroma could bypass the weakpoint damaging portion of the fight in an instant. At its simplest, we do not want our Eidolons one-shotted.

Chroma's usage was already somewhat narrow, so we want him to remain a competitive option for Teralyst damage boosting, while also improving other parts of his kit. Although the magnitude of his boost will be lowered, it will still be one of the strongest boosting abilities in the game, and both damage/armor increases will now apply to all teammates in a nearby radius. Furthermore, Spectral Scream without movement restrictions allows players to be the aimgliding, fire-breathing dragon they've always dreamed of! We will continue to observe how these changes affect Chroma (and the Teralyst hunting squads) in the coming weeks, and consider further tweaks if needed.


EMBER

World On Fire - 5 seconds after casting, a percentage will begin counting up on the ability icon. As this percentage scales from 0% to 100% over 10 seconds, the ability's energy cost and damage dealt both grow to double, while the ability radius shrinks to half.

Ember is the original damage caster frame, offering low survivability in exchange for high offense. Her ultimate, World on Fire, is unmatched in terms of widespread lethality - while many Warframes specialize in certain mission types, Ember's specialty is "anything under level 30". By simply bullet jumping through levels with World on Fire active, enemies become a non-factor, making Ember a ubiquitous pick across most of the Star Chart. Like a mobile Resonating Quake, this monopoly on kills can leave squadmates struggling to keep up, in an attempt to see the enemy before they melt. These changes increase lethality at higher levels, while addressing the ability's huge range.

World on Fire will continue working similarly to how it does now, but with changing effects over time. The gradually increasing energy cost should encourage most players to toggle the ability when needed, instead of the current "set and forget" approach. Players who can afford to run the ability at max charge may need to get more up close and personal, but the increased damage should help Ember out against higher level enemies. World on Fire is still very capable of clearing rooms and sweeping hallways, but should now be applied more deliberately!

GARA

Mass Vitrify - Wall health scales based on health and shields of the enemies it glasses over.

*Our latest Warframe Gara is a versatile frame on the cutting glass edge, with a tool for most situations. After recent changes to her Mass Vitrify, the ability is serviceable against most of the star chart, but doesn't hold up well to higher level content.

While this is tough to showcase in a gif, in practice the wall has gotten stronger because it has covered many enemies in this cast!*

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To help the ability scale better, the health of Mass Vitrify's wall will increase based on the health and shields of the enemies who are "glassed" by the ability's cast. This added incentive for letting enemies get close to the objective should add an interesting risk/reward element to Gara's gameplay.

MAG

Polarize - Shards created by Polarize now scale based on power strength, as well as the percentage of damage done to that specific enemy.

Crush - Each stage of crush emits a shield heal from Mag. Restores shields to nearby allies per damage instance, based on the number of enemies affected.

Mag has seen many changes over Warframe's history - her major rework in 2016 reinforced her role as a fragile crowd control caster, widening her usability across all factions. Although she performs well in the right hands, some of the synergies introduced in that rework did not have quite the impact we wanted. Plus as a starter frame, we want new players to feel like choosing Mag is a more viable option.

Increasing the damage of shards created by Polarize should give Mag more kill power. Additional shield restore on Crush also offers a way to passively support your team while clearing crowded rooms!

VOLT

Discharge - Removed the damage cap. Increased base damage output from 750 to 1200. Damage and stun duration are halved for enemies further away from Volt (affected by Mods).

Removing Discharge's damage cap has been a common request since Volt's rework in early 2016. We tried testing this version of the ability internally, and decided it was too much - stunning all enemies for 20+ seconds, through walls and inside spawn closets, had a seriously disruptive effect on gameplay. However, we understand why this is a common request, and have done our best to make it work.

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Lightning strikes most fierce at the center. To accompany the damage cap removal, Discharge is now less effective at medium to long range, doing less damage and stunning for less time. The damage reduction is mostly offset by an increased base damage on the ability, but the reduced stun at long range should keep mission flow in check.

ZEPHYR

Some of Zephyr's abilities are cheaper to cast while airborne - details in progress.

Tail Wind - Combined into a single ability with Dive Bomb. Can be charge cast on the ground, launching Zephyr into the air where she then hovers. In the air, Tail Wind still flies in whatever direction you're looking, and Dive Bomb activates if cast while looking straight down.

Air Burst - New ability replacing Dive Bomb. A projectile that causes an AoE burst on contact, ragdolling enemies. Can be fired into Tornadoes to make them bigger.

Tornado - Now spawn where player is aiming and can be steered. The closest tornado will move to your aimpoint, meaning you can move them around. Tornado damage type now determined by largest amount of elemental damage absorbed, instead of last type absorbed. Tornadoes do a better job of keeping enemies captured, and shooting Tornadoes will do damage to enemies trapped inside.

Zephyr, the warrior of the skies, has seen little change since being introduced in early 2014. Four years later, her ability kit is showing its age - Parkour 2.0 improved mobility across all Warframes, making her reduced gravity and Tail Wind less useful by comparison. Turbulence is consistently useful, but all other abilities leave something to be desired.

To give Zephyr new wind beneath her wings, her Tail Wind and Dive Bomb will now be the same ability, cast depending on which direction the player is looking. This makes room for her new ability Air Burst, which gives Zephyr new ways to rain death from the skies. We do not have a gif ready for this yet. Combined with Tornado tweaks intended to make the ability more consistent and useful, Zephyr's more well-rounded kit should help reassert her air superiority.

We believe these changes make our wide Warframe roster more diverse and fun to play. We will be listening to your responses, so please keep feedback respectful and constructive. While not final, these changes will likely go out in a state very close to what is listed above. Once players have had a chance to try the changes themselves, we will consider further actions.\ Thanks Tenno!

 

Meester

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Next few days gets you this stuff [and free weapons slots if you already have those weapon dex's].

The syandana will gets its own alert later.
 
I know nobody cares on GAF any more, but noclip just released part one of their series on the history of Warframe. figure I'll share it on both the PS4 and PC thread here.



they did some great documentaries on games like Doom, FFXIV, Horizon and I highly recommend those who's interested to spare a few minutes and check them out.
 
What's with the constant action in the plains?
It's so fucking annoying I'm not even touching that part of the game anymore. It's also unbalanced for solo play.
The enemy range and numbers are absurd.
 

solid mike

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Hello, picking up Warframe after playing it on a laptop that could barely run it back in 2013 when it was new. I see that the game has evolved and I've recently been seeing some friends play it on Steam.

Any tips for a newcomer?
 

Tenaciousmo

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Any tips for a newcomer?

-Play alone for the first 2-3 planets to get the feel of the game (or with a friend you can communicate with)
-Excalibur frame is the easy mode of the game
-Don't go and look up quest trailers or anything
-If you want to buy platinum, it might be worth it to wait to get the reductions from daily login bonuses.
-Build new frames and weapons as soon as possible as they take from 12h for weapons to 3 days real time for warframes to construct.
-Try to experience with as many different weapons as possible as they are the only way to level up your mastery rank.
-Do every Nitain Extract missions you can, this ressource is a pain to farm in late game.
 

Lanrutcon

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Hello, picking up Warframe after playing it on a laptop that could barely run it back in 2013 when it was new. I see that the game has evolved and I've recently been seeing some friends play it on Steam.

Any tips for a newcomer?

The wiki is your friend.
Build Rhino when you reach the planet where you farm his parts. A Rhino can do any of the content in the game. Nobody will ever go "awww fuck, you brought a highly tanky frame with the best buff in the game. You asshole!"
Save your plat until you know the game better. There are annoying things to farm, which can be bought instead (coughharrowcough).
You can never go wrong leveling mods for straight damage, multishot, critical chance or critical damage.

Just have fun doing whatever you feel like. Everything you do gives you something. No need to min max. And no need to make plat in the early game. Once you get into relics later you'll make your plat there. There's always someone willing to pay for rare prime bits, because people are lazy.
 

voidenberg

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Shit, i think it finally clicked. I've been trying to get into this game for years (on ps4). Switched to PC, remapped some keys on my CONTROLLER and suddenly bullet jumping became effortless. And boy, that made a world of difference.
I was doing random missions, farming neurodes on earth and i was having a blast.
 

Used-ID

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Rhino prime coming next week. I've been waiting for him to show up. DE is getting some money from me. I'll probably buy the big pack. Then one day I'll actually start work on that rank 11 test
 
Any tips for a newcomer?
In general most people don't care what you do in random groups bu the one thing that can irk a lot of the playerbase and is a common mistake for new players is when you stop to loot everything. Years of conditioning from other games will tell you to open every crate but Warframe is a grindfest and doing that is horribly, horribly inefficient. It's almost always better to just kill a lot and loot what drops and there are maps that are better for doing so.

And this should go without saying but don't use the free starter plat on cosmetics. Buy a frame slot and some weapon slots.
 
Some cosmetics are given away usually during events, sometimes there's some from streams or being subbed to Twitch Prime, and there's a few you can get from the void trader. The bulk of cosmetics are plat only but since DE loves money those will soon be outnumbered by Tennogen cosmetics which are real money only.
 

Lanrutcon

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On the subject of plat:
- Later in the game you will receive relics. Opening these will yield Prime parts.
- Prime parts build Prime frames, weapons, sentinels, etc.
- These Prime parts come in 3 flavors: bronze (common), silver (uncommon) and gold (rare).
- All Prime parts can be sold for Plat to other players. Yes, even the common ones. People are lazy. The newer or rarer they are, the more you can ask for.
- https://warframe.market/ is the primary site for trading (I am not affiliated)
- You can also sell mods there, if you lucked into some of the BIS ones.
- This is the primary way to gain plat. I know people who exclusively buy/resell Prime parts and they are swimming in plat.
 
Finally finished the stupid Limbo Theorem quest. I was lucky to have someone join an Archwing mission. I think DE forgot this mode exists. Those fucking shield Dargyns!!!
Now I have a bunch of old relics to figure out...
 
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Strazyplus

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PC Gamer posts a article stating
"Warframe Fortuna release date: What you need to know about the ambitious new expansion"

TL;DR : There is no release date stated in this article...

*sigh*

PCGamer Article

I need to find a new gaming news site to check out frequently I watch PCG and Rock paper shotgun. anyone got suggestions for a place that doesn't make fluff articles too much? and maybe a bit more PC orientated?
 
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PayoLoko

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I just got started in the game. I knew it existed long ago, but never tried.
Can you recommend some place (like youtube channel maybe?)to get good information on things like gameplay...etc (im already reading the reddit, the official guide and the wiki)

Thankssss
 

Lanrutcon

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I just got started in the game. I knew it existed long ago, but never tried.
Can you recommend some place (like youtube channel maybe?)to get good information on things like gameplay...etc (im already reading the reddit, the official guide and the wiki)

Thankssss

Youtube has some multi-episode guides up. You can ask questions here, if you want.

My big piece of advice to new Tenno: It all looks terribly complicated, but it isn't . Relax. Just go and shoot shit on different planets. You'll figure things out as you go.
 
^ A lot of people would say do The Second Dream quest first. If it hasn't grabbed you by then.. :shrug:

Only one problem. It took me about 50 hours to finish The Second Dream quest.

Honestly, I'm not sure how I feel about this game. It feels like one big grind and collect-a-thon. What is there to this game besides that? I honestly don't know what else to expect.
 
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Tenaciousmo

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Only one problem. It took me about 50 hours to finish The Second Dream quest.

Honestly, I'm not sure how I feel about this game. It feels like one big grind and collect-a-thon. What is there to this game besides that? I honestly don't know what else to expect.
it is that but also you can dress your dolls pretty :)
 

down 2 orth

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Only one problem. It took me about 50 hours to finish The Second Dream quest.

Honestly, I'm not sure how I feel about this game. It feels like one big grind and collect-a-thon. What is there to this game besides that? I honestly don't know what else to expect.

Lol, I saw a similar question on another forum, and someone answered "We play this game to grind for items that help us grind."

I'm new to the game too, but it's definitely grabbed me. Maybe because I love weird sci-fi.
 

Lanrutcon

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Only one problem. It took me about 50 hours to finish The Second Dream quest.

Honestly, I'm not sure how I feel about this game. It feels like one big grind and collect-a-thon. What is there to this game besides that? I honestly don't know what else to expect.

Ok,. You mean besides the combat, the exploration, the customization, the minigames., the quests, pvp. Have you tried Sanctum Assaults yet? Done a Tridelon cap? I'm busy filling my spaceship with tiny stuffed mouse toys. Wall to wall. Occasionally I go shoot things. Getting "stuff" is a component of all activities, but there's variety: it's just not clear from the start of the game.
 
Ok,. You mean besides the combat, the exploration, the customization, the minigames., the quests, pvp. Have you tried Sanctum Assaults yet? Done a Tridelon cap? I'm busy filling my spaceship with tiny stuffed mouse toys. Wall to wall. Occasionally I go shoot things. Getting "stuff" is a component of all activities, but there's variety: it's just not clear from the start of the game.

Based on your snarky reply, I'm guessing that there's not much else to the game.

It's alright if you like the game. Just don't get in a fit if others don't like it.

Be honest. There's not really much DEPTH in the gameplay. I agree that there's a lot of content, but, unfortunately, it's procedurally generated content dominated by redundant gameplay systems.

Also, 50 hours into the game should NOT be the "start of the game."
 

Lanrutcon

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Based on your snarky reply, I'm guessing that there's not much else to the game.

It's alright if you like the game. Just don't get in a fit if others don't like it.

Be honest. There's not really much DEPTH in the gameplay. I agree that there's a lot of content, but, unfortunately, it's procedurally generated content dominated by redundant gameplay systems.

Also, 50 hours into the game should NOT be the "start of the game."

Wasn't meant to be snarky: the game is terrible at telling you what activities are available and how to unlock them. Obviously not everything is available day 1, but your first handful of hours is a very shallow representation of how much there is to do, much like an MMO.

Now, 50 hours in and you don't know half of what the game offers? That's on you mate. At 50 hours I was a finely honed killing machine trying to play catch up with all the content patches.

Maybe you need a more linear, story driven experience in the 20 hour range? Maybe MMOs (and really, Warframe is really built on an MMO core when it comes to pacing and systems) aren't for you. You would not be the first person when it comes to Warframe: you either love it, or you hate. It's a common issue. The game is about as new player friendly as herpes.
 

Orpheum

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Alright in my opinion the implementation of debt bonds is complete B.S. this honestly feels like the worst grind ever just to level up the first couple of Solaris united ranks, it completely ruined any excitement of Fortuna/Orb Vallis for me because i can't be arsed to farm these. if at least multiple sorts of debt bonds could drop in higher level Bounties this would be so much better. The ostron ranking up process felt way more natural and rewarding...
 

Helios

Member
Anyone still playing this? I just recently started playing and it hooked me in. A bit overwhelming but nothing google can't solve.
 

Used-ID

Member
I hear you. I usually don't get caught up in these types of games but the gameplay feels so good I NEED to farm that next frame
The old neogaf clan changed over to Resetera and is still going strong. The membership is always close to full. I'm too lazy/cheap/busy/poor to restart a neogaf clan - but it does cross my mind from time to time.
 

EviLore

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Rebooted here:

 
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