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[TweakTown] Sony is confident the PS5 can break 60 million sales

xrnzaaas

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Of course it will and personally I don't see Sony introducing PS6 anytime soon (like in the next ~3 years). They're going to drag the generation just like they've done with PS4.
 
ANIMAL1975

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THE DUCK said:
Relax, your still the best in the universe because you own a ps5. I have two so I'm doubly the best. Ah, the animated gif, crutch of the people on forums who think they are "clever"
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THE DUCK

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I'd double post that gif after this reply. Honestly what are you talking about, are you Ok?
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What I stated us very simple, they have cleverly taken what could be a negative and made it ring more beneficial than it really is.
I apologize if this simple concept was too complicated for your grade level to grasp, I had assumed adults were involved.
 
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Flutta

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60 mil? Sony trying really hard here to be humble.

I miss arrogant Sony already.
 
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Jim Ryan other Clone said:
Or maybe the biggest portion of that 30% are people who buy first time consoles? Kids who have become teenager and want to buy it or parent who want to buy it for their young kids etc. Every minute there are hundreds new kids born that can be new console owners couple years down the road.
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True but this would be offset some by older gamers dying off. But I see what you mean.
 
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Nautilus

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I think the article forgot to put a "This year" somewhere in there, because that's what it feels like he was trying to say.
 
Amiga

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There is less pressure for Sony to reduce hardware price and build an install base since PS4/PS5 are practically a single platform.

PS5s are now found on shelves in several countries (Strange that this didn't happen yet in the USA). Sony likely wants to first focus on the core players who will seek out the console online and tend to buy many games. Hogwarts sold tons on day1 and it is yet to release on PS4, so this strategy works. It worked so well it made Sony launch the PSVR2 without traditional retail.

With a rumored new design PS5 that is less costly to manufacture and signal sent by the high sales of Hogwarts, We could be entering a new phase where the console is going to widely available and game developers starting to make new gen only games.
 
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Elios83

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This is by the end of March 2024.
Which is in line with their forecast to sell over 20m units in the next fiscal year starting in April 2023.
It's obviously not LTD sales :messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_grinning_sweat:
 
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Brucey said:
I thought 360 exceeded that.
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sorry, it did, ignore me then :)

(although I do think the real reason Sony is saying what it is saying is just about underselling it publicly (maybe due to the ongoing MS Acti acquisition?), internally they probably expect/hope that it will do PS4 numbers, and I think this year we may see PS5 catch up to PS4 figures launch aligned)
 
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Elios83 said:
This is by the end of March 2024.
Which is in line with their forecast to sell over 20m units in the next fiscal year starting in April 2023.
It's obviously not LTD sales :messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_grinning_sweat:
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Yep, just listened to it (instead of reading a misleading article), they are talking about 60 million 'incremental' units, so yeah, 60 million up to March 2024, they also expect to sell more PSVR2 than PSVR1
 
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KungFucius

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If they are picking such a low ball number, are they seeing something of concern? I mean do they have no games or something?

edit - oh, this is 2024. Yeah that makes sense and is reasonable.
 
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vivftp

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SHA said:
Steam sales won't cannibalize on consoles sales, I don't think so, it's hard for pc users to turn back and forth.
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lol, I think you may have read the wrong posts. Let me just quote myself:


For even more perspective, the PS5 is at 32.1 million units as of the last quarterly report. Sony predicts 6.2 million more in Q4, which would bring it up to a total of 38.3 by the end of this FY (in 3 weeks).

So 38.3 plus Tom Hendersons rumor of 30.5 would put the PS5 at 68.8 million by the end of March 2024.

Even if we ignore Tom's rumor, Sony has said they expect the PS5 to surpass the PS4 sales curve next FY, which means the PS5 would need to move at least 22 million units to hit that goal. 38.3 + 22 would bring us to 60.3 million by the end of March 2024.

So yeah, over 60 million by the end of the next FY seems all but certain.
 
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Pelta88

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Brucey said:
30% of PS5 owners are new to Playstation? Did they come from xb1?
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Almost 50% of PS4 owners never had a PS3

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Only the publishers know where that new found audience is coming from. That said, Sony is feasting on some other platform's market share. A combined 70% of their audience between PS4 and PS5, never owned a PlayStation previously?


Sony right now like

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SHA

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vivftp said:
lol, I think you may have read the wrong posts. Let me just quote myself:


For even more perspective, the PS5 is at 32.1 million units as of the last quarterly report. Sony predicts 6.2 million more in Q4, which would bring it up to a total of 38.3 by the end of this FY (in 3 weeks).

So 38.3 plus Tom Hendersons rumor of 30.5 would put the PS5 at 68.8 million by the end of March 2024.

Even if we ignore Tom's rumor, Sony has said they expect the PS5 to surpass the PS4 sales curve next FY, which means the PS5 would need to move at least 22 million units to hit that goal. 38.3 + 22 would bring us to 60.3 million by the end of March 2024.

So yeah, over 60 million by the end of the next FY seems all but certain.
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So it's periodic sales ,making bold claim as if were for lifetime sales is exaggerating, thanks for the details.
 
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Deerock71

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Ash Sparrow said:
I also wonder if its going to be a shorter gen for Sony. I dont see how its not going to hit atleast 100 mil otherwise.TBH no matter how Iook at it 60 mil makes no sense unless PS6 coming in hot.
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People that just assume 100 million is a given makes me chuckle.
 
yurinka

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SHA said:
The Playstation is a 100+ millions console, I don't get it.
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The Morgan Stanley interviewer mentioned they expect PS5 sel above 60M and asked if Sony agrees, and the Sony president replied that yes, that PS4 sold way over 100M and they expect PS5 to perform relatively similar.

He mentioned that now that they got rid of the supply issues this year they'll catch up and outperform PS4 performance launch aligned.

I assume that the 'more than 60M' number that the interviewer asked for wasn't for the whole console lifetime, but instead for the number of consoles sold at the end of next fiscal year. Meaning Morgan Stanley expects PS5 to sell around 22M+ consoles next fiscall year, and Sony seems to agree.

xrnzaaas said:
Of course it will and personally I don't see Sony introducing PS6 anytime soon (like in the next ~3 years). They're going to drag the generation just like they've done with PS4.
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Daniel_Mallorca1985 said:
PS6 release in 2025??? Nope.
PS6 release in year 2028 o 2029.
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As I remember in one of the regulators document, not sure if it was Sony, MS or ABK implied that the first CoD released on PS6 would be the 2028 one, meaning they estimate PS6 to release late 2027 or early 2028. In line with the same difference between that and the previous console release than the one we saw in previous cases lilke PS5 vs PS4 or PS4 vs PS3.

Brucey said:
30% of PS5 owners are new to Playstation? Did they come from xb1?
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I assume from PC, Switch and mostly XBO.

SHA said:
The Playstation is a 100+ millions console, I don't get it.
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The Morgan Stanley interviewer mentioned they expect PS5 sel above 60M and asked if Sony agrees.
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The most conservative prediction possible
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Barakov said:
Not exactly an ambitious target at the moment.
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TheGodfather07 said:
Only 60m? Sony are already dying from the Activison deal!
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I think the Morgan Stanley meant 'over 60M' consoles sold until the end of the next fiscal year, not until the end of the console lifetime. Meaning, that in addition to achieve their estimation for the current FY Sony would sell 22M+ consoles during the next fiscal year. The Sony president agreed, he thinks they'll achieve that and reminded that PS consoles normally sell above 100M as it has been the case of PS4.
 
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BadBurger

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Of course they will.

Anyway, there's a lot of money being invested in the US and other countries to continue ramping up already growing domestic chip fabrication endeavors to avoid future supply chain issues. I assume that as this continues apace manufacturers of devices like the PS5 should see improved sales as they are able to produce more product.
 
Eddie-Griffin

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Morgan Stanley is probably considering the possible recession as a risk factor when they asked Sony that question.
 
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Ash Sparrow

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Msybe he is looking at PS5 editions as separate entities, otherwise thats far too conservative.
60 Million PS5s
60 Million PS5PRO
 
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