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ONE FOOTBALL FUTURE - BYE-BYE VISUAL CONCEPTS & ESPN FOOTBALL
- Thread starter sonycowboy
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Musashi Wins!
FLAWLESS VICTOLY!
DarienA said:
I think it's time to abandon ship and just become a Pol Pot fanboy.
sonycowboy
Member
Chi-Town said:
That game didn't have much of a future and I don't expect this to change that much at all.
JackFrost2012
Banned
Two Ziff mags shut down, and now this? What an awful, awful day.
This is an asshole move on EA's part. I didn't buy their games anyways but I'll not buy them with relish in the future. I can't imagine it makes any financial sense for them, either, given what they must have paid - they're scared and desperate and spending money to hide that.
Look at how their Q4 games all bombed ... EA is going to take over the industry and destroy it from the inside.
>_<
This is an asshole move on EA's part. I didn't buy their games anyways but I'll not buy them with relish in the future. I can't imagine it makes any financial sense for them, either, given what they must have paid - they're scared and desperate and spending money to hide that.
Look at how their Q4 games all bombed ... EA is going to take over the industry and destroy it from the inside.
>_<
I am a Madden whore and general EA supporter, but this is BAD. No if, ands, or buts about it, this is so fucking wrong it's not funny. When you cut out the competition from anything, the quality suffers. Without someone keeping EA sharp, and for 5 fucking years, this doesn't bode well for the next gen Madden. Why would the NFL do this? This is just stupid. PEACE.
The Abominable Snowman
Member
Has EA stated how much revenue they make off of the Madden series games? While I recognize that they do other ventures using the Madden name (Chiefly the NFL Street games and touring which people pay for) If they can't come up with a plan that not only nets them the 250 million/year (I think) and covers development and publishing expenses, they may be in over their heads for a bit.
For sure I bet EA is foaming at the mouth with anticipation to charge for online play, leagues, roster updates. The works. With no competition the skies the limit. And im sure the game will retail for $65 or if not that definetly more then the $49.99 MSRP of this years. Maybe start slow at $55 or $60 to get the consumer used to the new EA way of doing business.
How much does Madden sell? About 5 Million or so right? Add in NFL street and the potential for the management sim then you are looking at potentially what? 7-10 million games per year? That would probably be $350-500M @ $50. With platinum prices too you are looking at $300-400M per year gross.
Knock off costs like development, distribution, marketing and retailer cuts and so on they profit maybe $100-200 per year. Over 5 years $500-1000M. How much of that goes to the NFL? Considering ea make all the investment and so on, I think $200-500M is most likely. $1B is too unlikely.,
Knock off costs like development, distribution, marketing and retailer cuts and so on they profit maybe $100-200 per year. Over 5 years $500-1000M. How much of that goes to the NFL? Considering ea make all the investment and so on, I think $200-500M is most likely. $1B is too unlikely.,
I found this another board if you want to get in contact with the NFL Players Association here you go:
Headquarters
2021 L Street, N.W.
Suite 600
Washington, DC 20036
800-372-2000
202-463-2200
Western Office
423 Washington Street
Suite 700
San Francisco, CA 94111
800-900-9404
415-438-3800
Headquarters
2021 L Street, N.W.
Suite 600
Washington, DC 20036
800-372-2000
202-463-2200
Western Office
423 Washington Street
Suite 700
San Francisco, CA 94111
800-900-9404
415-438-3800
Infinitemadness
Member
Thats it, bring on Mario Football.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
i have to say that madden is a far superior game to ESPN NFL, but this is a huge bitch move. it's like me playing a pickup game of basketball and i'm dominating. then this dude comes around and starts playing me competitively. so instead of practicing and getting better, i take my ball home and play by myself on my own court. that kind of stuff gets your ass KICKED ON THE STREETS BOYEEEEEEEE!
p.s. but on the flip side...
DMczafX23: if it was just Sega vs. EA again, then EA wouldnt have had to do this!
WhosSorryNow015: lol i know
WhosSorryNow015: thats the irony of it all
WhosSorryNow015: if sega just shut its mouth and kept getting its ass kicked in peace...
WhosSorryNow015: then EA wouldn't have to bring the hammer down!
DMczafX23: lol, this goes on the "Things you dont fucking do" List next to "Don't step on Superman's cape"
DMczafX23: "Don't fuck with EA"
WhosSorryNow015: DONT TUG ON SUPERMANS CAPE! YOU DONT!
p.s. but on the flip side...
DMczafX23: if it was just Sega vs. EA again, then EA wouldnt have had to do this!
WhosSorryNow015: lol i know
WhosSorryNow015: thats the irony of it all
WhosSorryNow015: if sega just shut its mouth and kept getting its ass kicked in peace...
WhosSorryNow015: then EA wouldn't have to bring the hammer down!
DMczafX23: lol, this goes on the "Things you dont fucking do" List next to "Don't step on Superman's cape"
DMczafX23: "Don't fuck with EA"
WhosSorryNow015: DONT TUG ON SUPERMANS CAPE! YOU DONT!
Ghost of Bill Gates
Banned
I really wonder how this will affect the whole Sega / Take Two arrangement. If Take Two have already bought out Visual Concepts or signed the deal, Sega might just have made the best deal ever. If not, well it's just typical Sega I guess.
Anyway, what do I care, I'm European! :lol
Anyway, what do I care, I'm European! :lol
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
:lol not even that DM it went like this...
Take2: Alright sounds good, where do I sign??
Sega: Oh, just sign on the dotted line on the bottom. I'll go get you a pen.
Take2: I have one here...
Sega: Yeah but that's a blue pen, we here at sega like to sign things with black pens. It's just one of the little "sega differences". I'll go get the pen from Marty. He's on the 3rd floor.
Take2: ... uhhh you guys own more than 1 black pen right??
Sega: What was that? I didn't hear what you said. And now I'll be right back. Here, watch some TV while I go get the pen. We only get the reuters channel here. Top management thought it would really boost our resolve and morale.
TV: ...and it appears as though sega just got fucked up the ass as EA has signed a 5 year exclusive deal with the NFL/NFLPA...
poor sega, they can do no right!
Take2: Alright sounds good, where do I sign??
Sega: Oh, just sign on the dotted line on the bottom. I'll go get you a pen.
Take2: I have one here...
Sega: Yeah but that's a blue pen, we here at sega like to sign things with black pens. It's just one of the little "sega differences". I'll go get the pen from Marty. He's on the 3rd floor.
Take2: ... uhhh you guys own more than 1 black pen right??
Sega: What was that? I didn't hear what you said. And now I'll be right back. Here, watch some TV while I go get the pen. We only get the reuters channel here. Top management thought it would really boost our resolve and morale.
TV: ...and it appears as though sega just got fucked up the ass as EA has signed a 5 year exclusive deal with the NFL/NFLPA...
poor sega, they can do no right!
B E N K E said:
The letter of intent was binding. It depends on what exactly is said in the letter. Im going to take a guess that Sega probably sought this deal for protection in the event that EA was successful and that TTwo is screwed.
From the original announcement:
Sega announced that the company has signed a binding letter of intent (LOI) with Take-Two Interactive to co-publish all SEGA ESPN Videogames sports titles, including ESPN NFL Football, ESPN NBA Basketball, ESPN NHL Hockey, ESPN College Hoops and ESPN Major League Baseball worldwide.
The multi-year co-publishing and distribution agreement includes a provision for Take-Two to further extend its participation in Sega's sports game business and all associated intellectual property for current and future gaming platforms. Exclusive distribution of ESPN Videogames will be managed by Jack of All Games in North America and Take-Two Europe for international territories.
