BruceLeeRoy
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Haha that's a good one
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NPD Sales Results for May 2016
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Haha that's a good one
because DC was there 1 year in and and there were plenty of other games not called Forza on PS4? Like all of these:
http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/genre/date/racing/ps4
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Do you have a PS4 U?
This is so hard for me to buy. I think in reality your just biased. Which is okay. You have probably been an Xbox fan since the first console and went all in and have a hard time acknowledging the competitor because my doing that your admitting you would probably love a lot of games on that console. I can't take anyone who says they are a shooter or racer fan and don't play GT or have been around for TLOU, KZ2, and UC4.
I love those same genres. Last gen if I wanted to play the best shooters it was hands down my 360. Now you would need crazy to miss out on these other games.
I just don't get with people limit themselves
The Mad Draklor
Member
Well, it seems that the stock is not being cleared out fast enough...
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
haha wut? I think there is some misunderstanding here. But I love TLOU, Uncharted, GT franxhise and Killzone 2. And thats the reason I have PS4. But I dont consider new killzone a good game. I am surprised why is it so hard to believe that someone like me who loves shooting and racing game, Xbox One has been the best place since launch.
Anyways I am definitely slightly biased because again love Halo, gears and forza.
I was sure I specified that Shooters are the exception to the rule. I guess I'm just not good at this. My opinion is I have the most fun with the Wii-U. Go opinions?
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
Have no issue with that. Wii U, Tablets, Handhelds. Whatever you like, and feel has the quality games
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Bro I misread you completely. My bad!
Can't argue here.
I hear this "exclusive" stuff all the time but then i see my roommate play nothing but indie games until this year when Bloodborne and Uncharted game out, da fak? There's no point in arguing what console has exclusives that pertain to each individual. In the end it's preferences. All i know is that Xbox has released major exclusives faster.
If it doesn't have the games you care about, this is pointless.
This has nothing to do with engineering. It was a design philosophy that didn't pan out the way Microsoft envisioned it. Just look at the PS3. Was that horrible engineering at work? Because from a design perspective that shit was a mess. They wanted to push Cell, it didn't pan out.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Those are the two games that interest me as well.
I would get Cuphead and Scalebound if I had a X1.
Unlikely.
demigod
Member
Lmfao. You talk about opinions yet say the xbox one has the best racer and shooter as fact.
ethomaz
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blame space
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I'm on the edge of my seat over here
I think there isn't much more to talk about NPD data this month.
-PS4: good or impressive
-XOne: poor
-Wii U: dead
-Uncharted 4: great, but people expected more.
-Doom: great surprise
-Overwatch: good start, just 5 days
-Battleborn: not good, 4th is misleading
-Quantum Break: super bomba status confirmed
Done, we just need 3DS HW for predictions thread, because no one wants to talk about 3DS too.
Still curious about sales for Homefront and Rachet and Clank for the month. And as you said we still need 3DS figures. Once things settle down after E3 I'll be revisiting my Bold Predictions for the month and there are still a few we don't have the necessary data for.
creamsugar can give life to the thread with splits for SW and some other numbers, but he didn't appear last month, so...
Primethius
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Thats cool and I'm glad people have preferences as to what games and genres they like.
But as this is a sales thread, I replied to someone who said the PS4 doesn't have much over the XB1.
And that's not true. The diversified PS4 lineup is one of many factors for why it succeeds in other markets as opposed to the XB1. It's great that several other posters like the XB1 lineup more. I have nothing against that or said they couldn't.
My opinion on a consoles library and likewise, other's opinion on the XB1 library is irrelevant to the actual market.
ethomaz
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E3 is the best and worst time on GAF, honestly. Many posters get so riled up that the only thing that matters is dick waving contests.
Primethius
Banned
That sounds pretty good. A 60-65% drop it's sounding like.
Bioshocker
Member
I think the gap has closed a bit this gen, mainly due to lack of PGR on Xbox. But to me Xbox One is still the better platform for racing. And then there's the controller. DualShock and racing has never been a good combo.
ethomaz
Banned
Well racing are supposed to use wheel and Xbox was never a good combo due XID. I prefer racing games on PS platforms over Xbox.
I mean if you are really into racing games PS4 or PC actually is a better option.
IAmAnAgnostic
Member
Battleborn sold way more than I thought it had considering community activity and players on PC. In fact I am quite confused how the amazingly low activity is possibly considering the decent sales..
CrimsonGun
Member
As for racing is it not? Turn 10 and the Forza series has been the flag bearer for the racing genre for two generations now.
Boombloxer
Member
By sales? No. GT5 sold 10M+, GT6 sold 4.7M. Forza 5 was 1.3M+.
So, not really.
It's more personal preference but not sales, some folks can't tell the difference.
Like this one. What your roommate plays vs actual data is irrelevant. The PS4 has more exclusive games, the highest rated exclusives, and has collectively sold more games. There's a preference, but it's not for the Xbox. Doesn't matter if you disagree, the market doesn't. We're not talking individual preference.
I want an Otogi and Syphon Filter sequel. Guess whats not happening? My preferences don't matter in the face of the greater market because they didn't sell enough.
ethomaz
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That is not true at all.
I don't think any racing game has higher metascore than Forza Motorsport series on last gen. This gen I believe Mario Kart 8 has the best score, but is close to Forza 6.
You just made a load of stuff up here, didn't you?
Primethius
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If we're going to use Metacritic as a metric for determining the flag bearer for racing games then I'm not sure why my statement of PS4 having a larger quantity (and thus quality) was met with such contention.
Because according to Metacritic, my statement checks out.
But let's just stick to sales in this thread.
Because according to Metacritic, my statement checks out.
But let's just stick to sales in this thread.
That would happen anyway, install base is bigger. But Xbox One has bigger attach rate on NPD, so proportionally it sells games a little better.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Will we see XB1 sales go under 100k for June? I think there is a strong possibility.
Not sure what MS can do to remedy the situation as sales continue to decline significantly.
- They have no VR, no PSVR to reinvigorate their hardware.
- Scorpio is not coming until late 2017, so they are going to have to crawl along until then, fighting off PSVR and later, PS4K, with just an Xbox Slim model. Things could get very ugly for them.
Not sure what MS can do to remedy the situation as sales continue to decline significantly.
- They have no VR, no PSVR to reinvigorate their hardware.
- Scorpio is not coming until late 2017, so they are going to have to crawl along until then, fighting off PSVR and later, PS4K, with just an Xbox Slim model. Things could get very ugly for them.
Chobel
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Jesus! XB1 sales are pathetic this month.
What are the latest attach rate numbers we have? Last time it was very close.
What are the latest attach rate numbers we have? Last time it was very close.
What other metric we can use to talk about quality in a way that is not just personal preference?
btw, your post about PS4 having more games in raw number and in quality (based on scores) is completely true.
No, for two reasons:
-June has one extra week
-Microsoft dropped the price for $299 / $319
With stats like this, it makes you wonder why MS has been going for such low effort bundling. This generation especially (ignoring price), your console is only as attractive as the game it's bundled with. A GoW Remaster bundle, a meh selection (relative to NA's interests) from the Name Your Game bundle and a 50$ more expensive The Division bundle aren't gonna attract many new customers at all. Hope they lean on EA and Battlefield 1 (and potentially Titanfall 2) heavily throughout the holiday season and well into 2017, much like Sony has with CoD. Just don't make it $50 more expensive.
Gotta be somewhere around 100k in UK too right? Given its been in the top 10 since launch iirc.
Haven't sale prices been far below 299/319 in previous months?
In Europe it's regularly been on sale for under 250 at least.
Boombloxer
Member
I haven't looked at their attach rates in a while, bit last time I looked, this wasn't beyond 1. Thats not much different than last gen, in the states. Worldwide, wasn't close.
So that's not really true, otherwise the WiiU would be more viable.
No, actually in may the price went back to $349/$399 after drop to $299/$349 in april. I believe this was the reason for the bad sales.
Now in june for the first time 1TB is being selling for $319 and 500GB is $299 again.
I don't think we ever knew worldwide attach rate for Xbox One.
It's true, at least for retail sales in USA, the point is that attach rate doesn't mean anything if actual sales are bad, that's why Wii U doesn't receive love from third parties.
Primethius
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His comment was about being a "flag bearer" for racing games. That doesn't necessarily implicate quality.
I'd say the "flagbearer" for any genre is the title that sells the most or has the biggest impact. E.g. Call of Duty is the flagbearer for console FPS games yet I doubt many here would consider it among the best the FPS genre has to offer.
Ratchet is around 80k retail in the UK so far. I'm not sure as to the standard digital ratio there.
- Even withouth those two things, XBO would still do better cause June is just a stronger month. The weekly avg is almost always better.
This is so misleading when it comes to PC games. Even Legacy of the Void sold over a million in 24 hours, and Overwatch had a far bigger launch than that did. Guaranteed Overwatch won the month in reality. Its subreddit is already larger than Dota 2's and CS:GO's. The real number will come out when Activision Blizzard posts its next quarterly report, and that number will be massive.
I mainly loved Alan Wake for the amazing atmosphere. At least they seemed to have improved gunplay/combat in QB. I noticed unfortunately that variety is a glaring problem in their games. Even the first two Max Payne games, which were really good, were quite linear in a very restricted way with not much variety.
Did the mini show add to the game's plot in a good way? Shame about the boring plot elements. Remember how awesome Night Springs was in Alan Wake for instance? Was very fun to find them playing in the game.
Thanks for the impressions ^^