Grampa Simpson
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As long as it's the cream of the crop that are getting new releases that peg them at 60fps, I don't think I'd complain. Enough of them, and I might drop the cash on a PS3.charlequin said:
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NPD Sales Results for March 2010
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velvet_nitemare
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Donny should add MH3 to the software predictions for next month. I'm sure the numbers will vary wildly.
charlequin
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Massa said:
They're really not.
Uh huh.
velvet_nitemare
Member
schuelma said:
That would be pretty pathetic if it's in that ball park. Aren't Nintendo helping Capcom advertise it? Also, how did the PS2 MH games do for comparison?
Anyway, that number would put it in the neighborhood of games like The Conduit(I know it didn't break 100k in it's debut month), not other well advertised games like Just Dance, although that might have a bigger audience on the Wii than a game like MH.
flyinpiranha
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mujun said:
Wasn't that just a GI web survey? Not real proof but basically just a poll on their website?
EDIT: NVM, it just mentions the GI interview, that still is only 500,000. I'm not saying it doesn't fail a lot (I'm on my 2nd) and a couple of my friends have replaced theirs ... but 42% seems incredibly high.
At least MS pays for it.
velvet_nitemare said:
My buddy Segata can confirm, but I think the upper limit of all Monster Hunter games in N.A is about 150K LTD. That's why I have such low expectations, though I agree Capcom is marketing it pretty heavily.
velvet_nitemare
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schuelma said:
That gives some context. There's no denying that the game has effort put into it, and is being given a decent advertising push. Not sure if it has local MP, but the online implementation is solid and free. MH on consoles hasn't been a great seller in NA, but either way, the numbers will be interesting.
Sanic
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charlequin said:
I think as long as the pricing is right, it's ok. Aren't/weren't GoW I + II both $20 new? So getting them both on BD for $40 (now $30, even better) is just fine. But I don't nesecarily think it's fair to pay $60 for two games to be rereleased with nothing but a higher definition and framerate.
ThatObviousUser
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schuelma said:
Hrm, 200-250k is what I think it may do. The commercials are good, quirky, they show off the game, and push the multiplayer aspect. Plus don't forget GameStop's demo disc.
velvet_nitemare said:
It does have local splitscreen co-op, and I even think you can go online with two players on the same console.
I do wonder how they were able to achieve such a thing, the graphics are fantastic and from what I think I know, doing splitscreen also requires lots of extra power. Iwata was right to shovel praise on the game's graphics.
kame-sennin
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Vagabundo said:
Which raises the question, where are my 3rd party 2D games? Theoretically, 2D games should represent everything 3rd parties want on the Wii; cheap development, a straightforward design strategy, no need for motion controls, and a large, easy to understand audience. I don't know why this macro genre is being ignored.
And save the argument about NSMB selling because it's Mario. When you look at the sales CHASM between 2D Mario games and 3D Mario games, it's obviously not the IP that is making the difference.
ThatObviousUser
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schuelma said:
True, and the MH legacy could be more of a hamstring than a boon. But while I don't know if I'd base predictions on it, the Iwata Asks for the game revealed they paid special attention to the Wiimote+Nunchuk controls and making things accessible for "core" gamers new to the series (not to be confused with "casuals" looking to get into it.) And I didn't hear many complaints after people played the demo discs, though then again, this is NeoGAF.
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kame-sennin said:
Muramasa, Boy and His Blob, Klonoa, World of Goo, LostWinds 1/2, some others... Sonic 4 and Kiwi are upcoming.
Problem is most of those bombed. Muramasa did OK for itself and World of Goo did great, but we haven't heard any good things about the rest...
charlequin
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Pandoracell said:
Yeah. Just to clarify, I'm not saying it's terrible to put a small number of these collections out for the most significant franchises (this one was really a well-thought-out ad for GoW3 and I'm sure it helped boost hype for that title); I'm not saying it's wrong to buy them (if I'd owned a PS3, even a BC one, I would've waited for the collection instead of finally buying God of War 2 for PS2 last year); I'm really only saying that I'm not sure actively celebrating the success of such collections and hoping for an outpouring of more such collections so that one can replace their "useless" last-gen games with new copies is really sensible.
kame-sennin
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Willy105 said:
This is the greatest analogy I've ever read in my entire life :lol
kame-sennin said:
To be totally fair, the only 2D game to do even remotely well on the Wii aside from NSMBW was Wario Land. I doubt any of the others (Muramasa, Klonoa, A Boy and his Blob) broke 100k. Part of the draw behind NSMBW is that it's multiplayer too.
That said, despite however Sonic 4 might turn out, Sega's missing a fucking huge opportunity by not releasing it as a disc, at least for the Wii version, and advertising the hell out of it.
kame-sennin
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Andrex said:
Those aren't really mainstream games though. That'd be like judging action games by the performance of Bayonetta. Also, all of those games came out before NSMBW. Now that Mario is driving that audience, mass market 2D games have a much better chance of reaching people.
And Sonic is not going to do anything as a downloadable episodic game. I was excited about it until Sega announced their approach. More evidence that 3rd parties don't see 2D games as equal to 3D games; even a legacy franchise like Sonic is relegated to the online gaming ghetto.
charlequin said:
They really are. The GOW collection provides something much more valuable to me than just a couple of PS2 games running on a PS3; they look and run a hell of a lot better. The more games available with these improvements the better. It won't affect my ability to play the original PS2 games in any way.
charlequin said:
Maybe you have a better TV than I do.
I keep a 20" CRT around just for those consoles.I think it will do better than that. Capcom has been advertising it for 3 weeks on TV now. They are definitely trying to drum up hype for it. Wouldn't be surprised to see it at the bottom of the NPD top 10 for April. April is pretty empty outside of Splinter Cell.schuelma said:
LiquidMetal14
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They're billing LP2 already too. That game should do AT LEAST 200k on 360 (conservative guess) and 150k on PS3. It should easily do those numbers.truly101 said:
Grampa Simpson
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Oh cool. It's always good to have new data points. Did I completely miss the thread on this?mujun said:
mugurumakensei
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wizword said:
200-250k is in the range of what metroid prime 3 did first month. MP3 first month was 218k in the U.S. though it went on to sell more than 1 million world wide. U.S. is at least half if not more of that so ~600k sales in the U.S. at minimum.
Massa said:They really are. The GOW collection provides something much more valuable to me than just a couple of PS2 games running on a PS3; they look and run a hell of a lot better. The more games available with these improvements the better. It won't affect my ability to play the original PS2 games in any way.
Maybe you have a better TV than I do.
Also trophies!!
ThatObviousUser
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wizword said:
It's also had 500,000% more advertising than MP3 ever got.
velvet_nitemare
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The 360 version of LP2 should do better than those numbers easily.LiquidMetal14 said:
jvm said:Two things I didn't see mentioned here. Sorry if I missed them.
GOTCHA!
Wow Heavy Rain is doing quite well, might have to order it now.
ThatObviousUser
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neojubei said:
o_o
CadetMahoney
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I don't think HR is doing terribly well by any standard tbh.
John Harker
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high fives for Heavy Rain 1...err, I mean Silent Hill Shattered Memories sales updates!!
perfectchaos007
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Red Steel 2 didn't even crack top 20? Damn, I guess the p.o.s that was Red Steel 1 really ruined the reputation for the franchise. I'm looking forward to the Just Dance sequels.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
thanks for the RS2 numbers.
I wanna start this short post by saying that yes, it's impossible to resonate and satisfy everyone, but in my opinion, Ubisoft did so much right with Red Steel 2 that it's a shame it did so poorly, and this is why Wii owners don't deserve nice things.
and Tom Salta rules.
I wanna start this short post by saying that yes, it's impossible to resonate and satisfy everyone, but in my opinion, Ubisoft did so much right with Red Steel 2 that it's a shame it did so poorly, and this is why Wii owners don't deserve nice things.
and Tom Salta rules.