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NPD Sales Results for February 2015 [Nintendo Numbers, Majora's, MH4, ~XB1]
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I might be wrong, but did'nt EA only expect it to sell like 1/3 of Battlefield 4? Or at least they don't expect Battlefield 4 sales from Hardline.
MrPink93485
Member
I think the UK numbers are a far more reliable indicator for what to expect in the US, and it sounds to me that Hardline did decently despite a middling reaction. From what I understand, Hardline 2nd week sales > Bloodborne
theprodigy
Member
you should have learned from Evolve's Amazon bomba, that Amazon is not always reliable when it comes to software
also this
I have never seen any statement from EA projecting a series decline in sales for the franchise. If you can show me otherwise sure. Lots of people have said this so I'm wondering where it has come from because, as I said, as far as I know they haven't made any remarks about expecting sales decline and I looked for it after a couple others said as much.
That's what I was going to say: Evolve should have taught people once and for all that at least as far as software positioning predictions go, Amazon is not a good signal.
The sample is probably super-biased, and I suspect it would be biased precisely towards something like Bloodborne.
Its a combination of Amazon and many of my otherwise FPS crazy friends (all of whom picked up BF4 day one) completely skipping the game. I claim no aboslute authority on the matter just more of a gut feeling that happens to be backed up personal experience and by the amazon sales charts. You are right in that Amazon sales arent always reliable for software with Evolve being the most obvious example but I'm inclined to believe they'll be a bit more representative of general market trends this time around. Only time will tell.
anexanhume
Member
It was also interesting to see that Bloodborne bundle pass and hold on both Xbox bundles the last week. The general public didn't have that bundle, but I still expect a solid ps4 win.
makingmusic476
Member
Yeah, it's always seemed to me that tech-savvy people are more likely to shop online and more likely to be interested in video games that are more "hardcore" than the norm.
Nintendo titles also seem to punch above their weight on Amazon metrics.
Well forget me, I can't find it either so far. Have no idea where that came from then. However, I do have a hard time believing they could expect the same sales due to timing and how Hardline seems more like a spinoff than any mainline Battlefield.
theprodigy
Member
Shark Attack
Banned
Hardline will likely surpass 1/3 of sales of BF4.
As far as EA talking about an expected sales decline for Hardline the only statement I could find from EA was the exact opposite
Source
So on the contrary it seems they did not anticipate it selling less and in fact were counting on its sales to carry their earnings.
Also in regards to sales for Hardline the player stats page seems to paint a pretty damning picture as well
XBOXONE
PS4
Even BF4 with its horrible buggy early gen release was getting 100k+ on peak 24 hours well into its second month on PS4 and over 90k+ on XB1. That's a MASSIVE difference in online player numbers.
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So on the contrary it seems they did not anticipate it selling less and in fact were counting on its sales to carry their earnings.
Also in regards to sales for Hardline the player stats page seems to paint a pretty damning picture as well
XBOXONE
- 51,210
- 57,515
PS4
- 52,196
- 70,633
Even BF4 with its horrible buggy early gen release was getting 100k+ on peak 24 hours well into its second month on PS4 and over 90k+ on XB1. That's a MASSIVE difference in online player numbers.
Welfare
Member
Dark Souls 1 October NPD: #6 [#4 was 550k]
Dark Souls 1 Media Create first week: 279k
Dark Souls 1 Media Create first 4 weeks: >340k
Dark Souls 2 March NPD: <350k
Dark Souls 2 (PS3) Media Create first week: 255k
Dark Souls 2 (PS3) Media Create first 4 weeks: 320k
Bloodborne Media Create first week: 152k
Yeah more than 300k next NPD seems optimistic.
Dark Souls 1 Media Create first week: 279k
Dark Souls 1 Media Create first 4 weeks: >340k
Dark Souls 2 March NPD: <350k
Dark Souls 2 (PS3) Media Create first week: 255k
Dark Souls 2 (PS3) Media Create first 4 weeks: 320k
Bloodborne Media Create first week: 152k
Yeah more than 300k next NPD seems optimistic.
Hardline outsold Bloodborne in the UK in it's second week and it outsold Type-0 (when you combine the PS3 and PS4 SKUs) in Japan.
I think the game sold fine, definitely not as well as BF4, but not so low as to call it a "crazy bomba" or something like that.
Edit: The lower sales can also be in part thanks to the disaster of a launch BF4 had turning a lot of people off the series.
The game is doing fine for a March release. Please show me all the popular FPS games that were released during the "offseason" and sold the same as COD or BF (mainline).
IAmRandom31
Banned
What were the system hardware numbers for the PS3 / 360 during this time period compared to the current PS4 numbers?
In Dark Souls case we are talking 2011. So yeh ... there was a ton of hardware out at that point for both systems.
Why? There are like 5x the number of PS4s in the USA.
When was this last updated? The positions of the PS4 and XB1 are exactly the same as they were a few days ago. Also, it's amazing to see the limited edition Batman Arkham Knight bundle shoot straight to #1 on the hourly charts.
Welfare
Member
PS3 as of October 2011 NPD: 18.14m
PS3 as of Week 41, 2011 Media Create: 7.168m
360 as of October 2011 NPD: 29.23m
PS3 as of March 2014 NPD: 25.77m
PS3 as of Week 14, 2014 Media Create: 9.918m
360 as of March 2014 NPD: 41.31m
PS4 as of February 2015 NPD: 7.2m
PS4 as of Week 13, 2015 Media Create: 1.349m
Look at the above install bases. Even with a culmative 67.07m units in the US, DS2 did <350k, and that was with the PS3 only taking ~51% of those sales.
Now granted, 360 users did switch to the PS4, but enough to equal that full 350k on one system? A system that had an install base of 25.77m and only managed to grab ~178k units of sales, with the other having a 41.3m unit install base?
Total User Base and Active User Base are two different things. PS4 has a high active user base for purchasing software. Plus there aren't as many great games to choose from in the PS4 lifespan to compete with Bloodborne.
Also the Souls fanbase has expanded since Dark Souls released. You can't really make an apples to apples comparison to 2011.
Also the Souls fanbase has expanded since Dark Souls released. You can't really make an apples to apples comparison to 2011.
Bloodborne did better than DS2 its first week in the UK so you might be right about the fan base expanding or maybe the advertising is paying off who knows. Unfortunately no PC/Xbox release diminishes the overall player pool going forward. We'll get NPD numbers soon enough but I still stick with my original prediction close to DS2 in sales for first month with Infamous SS being its ceiling.
But didn't it manage to match DKsouls first week sales in the UK despite being on one console. I wouldn't use Japanese sales to infer anything about the west. Did you know that XB1 has sold less than 50K there I bet its bombing in America too ;-).
Welfare
Member
Did it? I haven't been in the PAL charts thread yet.
The Shogun
Banned
Hardline will win the month and it won't be by a small margin.
People are considering Amazon rankings too much. No doubt Hardline outsold Bloodborne by a wide margin.
Nightengale
Member
With the exception of FIFA and some occasional... stuff, UK and US are practically twins in terms of how their console gaming market is.
Hardline is #1 in UK easily. The same will happen for US.
Hardline is #1 in UK easily. The same will happen for US.
I could see this happening...
...if Bloodborne is banned for worldwide consumption in the next couple months.
LunaticHigh
Member
The media create sales are not really a good metric for bloodborne. The ps4 is doing terrible in Japan, whereas the ps4 is the machine to have in the rest of the world I would not be surprised if it did more than dark souls 1 first month.
Yes it matched Dark souls 2 first week. Debuted at around 43K.
KillerMan91
Member
Yes.
Bloodborne - 45k
Dark Souls 2 - 42k
I really wouldn't use Japan as an any indicator this gen when making comparisons with sales of games. PS4 has been selling well in the west but not in Japan. UK is a lot better indicator.
Welfare
Member
Probably should've checked that thread before making my post. Forgot about it.
Fuck monday illnesses making me forget
The Shogun
Banned
This is also my opinion.
*This prediction is based entirely on my own and is not representative of any particular business or a projection of numbers or real world data
Well at least in recent weeks it's been doing pretty well. I mean 40k+ in the most recent tracked week. If they keep that kind of number for a month that'll be pretty close to what the US sells monthly.
Yeah...150K in Japan is definitely an indicator the game will only sell 500K total.
Except most games can't keep up those kind of numbers week over week. For reference DS2 sold ~42k its first week and ~16k during its second week. I think Bloodborne is selling really well for what it is. I'm enjoying my time with it.
theprodigy
Member
unrealistically high expectations that it should match BF4 for some reason when even EA's target is 1/3 of it
I lol'd @ the expectations. People expecting an expansion pack to sell as much as a mainline BF.
joecanada
Member
what was the install base on those releases? Japan's install base is tiny, 152k first week is about right.
Around 6mil ps3's at that point apparently. So 5% for DS1 and probably around 10% for Bloodborne.
Majmun
Member
April started really well for the Ps4 according to Amazon
Three Ps4 sku's in the top 25.
#2 Batman Bundle
#4 Ps4 console
#21 Bloodborne bundle
Batman will probably move a lot of Ps4 units in june. It's a smart partnership.
Three Ps4 sku's in the top 25.
#2 Batman Bundle
#4 Ps4 console
#21 Bloodborne bundle
Batman will probably move a lot of Ps4 units in june. It's a smart partnership.
When is the Batman game releasing.?
June 23rd
Mass Effect
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June 23