Oh I wasn't aware. What calculations?
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NPD Sales Results for December 2014 [Up2: Nintendo Sales Notes]
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Oh I wasn't aware. What calculations?
You said it yourself. Only two months, and Sony's still on the lead. No reason to react just yet.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
First thing I noticed.
I know the One outsold it in those 2 months, but the PS4 install base is still bigger and the software was consistently higher selling. Maybe the One will have a giant attach rate like the 360 had?
Either way, January will be interesting now that the price cut is unofficially permanent.
hydrophilic attack
Member
The air hung heavy over the room. The lonely cry of a bald eagle in the distance penetrated the deep silence. The NPDs were out and they were bad. Nothing more needed to be said, as everyone in the room was contemplating the bleak future ahead. The system architect had had enough. In a sudden lurch, he stormed out of the room and through the corridors. The walls that were towering above him were as the walls of his own personal prison. The hurried pace of his long, elegant steps drew the attention of everyone he passed, but they knew better than to disturb him. Eventually he reached the hidden away recluse that he shared sometimes with Shu. Their closeness was a well-known secret, but everyone kept quiet about it, out of respect. The discarded wrappers of a hurried McDonald's dinner lay strewn across the room. In his rage, Mark tore them into pieces. Just as he was rummaging his pockets for his lighter, Shu came into the room.
"Hey, Mark, calm down. This is not the end of the world", said Shu.
"That's easy for you to say", Mark snapped back. "It is not your creation that failed, that is the laughing stock of all of gaming. But it is not only I who have failed. Not only Sony. But our glorious country lost Today. We are not what we were. We have stagnated. Become a country of old men and dashed ambitions. Today, Japan was beaten by the agile America. Her free market made a country of winners, ambition and superior technology. Today not only signals the end of Sonym but the end of the hopes and dreams of our entire nation."
Shu tried to placate him with a gentle kiss on the neck.
"Come on, it's not over ye-"
"Shut up! You are just in denial. Who cares about pre-season. We lost the big one! We could possibly have afforded to lose this month, but we lost China, our final hope, this month as well. We allowed the gaijins to get China all to themselves. If even 1% of their population buys that dirty product, that's 13 million units sold." Now his voice was rising in a towering crescendo. "There is no way we could recover from that. It is over. All our hard work. All the lies we told about our hardware before launch. All the money we paid to Bish to spread the gospel. It was all for nothing. Well, I have had enough. It ends Today!" he shouted
But the following silence rang almost as loud.
"W-what do you mean?"
Silently, Mark walked over to the rack near the wall, where he kept his katana collection. He picked up a wakisashi.
"Please, Mark, reconsider" Shu begged him. I will draw up a nice warm bath for us. You don't have to do this.
"But I do. I have failed us all. I have failed our country. I have failed the Emperor. I have brought eternal shame upon my ancestors. My honour is gone. I have no option but to end it all. Here and now, according to the traditions of our ancestors."
"Mark, don't be silly. No one does that these days. You were not even born here.
"Shu, I love you", Mark said, and plunged the blade into his gut.
He could feel pain spreading from his stomach. And up his spine and down his legs and up his neck. But there was something else there as well. Welling up inside him growing stronger every moment. And he started imagining things. He could smell the invigorating scent of hamburgers sizzling in a skillet. The feeling of a gun in his hand. And the sensation growing inside him was growing every stronger. In his minds eye he could see broad stripes and bright stars o'er the ramparts so gallantly streaming. He was vaguely aware of Shu shouting. No? That was not Shu. It was someone far more studly. Phil's chiseled pecs were gently brushing against his shoulder as sweet words were whispered in his ears, about content and experiences, and the infinite power of the cloud. And the sensation inside him was now a roaring storm, welling up ever more vigorous in his loins, drowning out the world with its all-encompassing whiteness.
In a basement at the other end of the world, Hindle woke up in his bed, feeling flustered.
"Hey, Mark, calm down. This is not the end of the world", said Shu.
"That's easy for you to say", Mark snapped back. "It is not your creation that failed, that is the laughing stock of all of gaming. But it is not only I who have failed. Not only Sony. But our glorious country lost Today. We are not what we were. We have stagnated. Become a country of old men and dashed ambitions. Today, Japan was beaten by the agile America. Her free market made a country of winners, ambition and superior technology. Today not only signals the end of Sonym but the end of the hopes and dreams of our entire nation."
Shu tried to placate him with a gentle kiss on the neck.
"Come on, it's not over ye-"
"Shut up! You are just in denial. Who cares about pre-season. We lost the big one! We could possibly have afforded to lose this month, but we lost China, our final hope, this month as well. We allowed the gaijins to get China all to themselves. If even 1% of their population buys that dirty product, that's 13 million units sold." Now his voice was rising in a towering crescendo. "There is no way we could recover from that. It is over. All our hard work. All the lies we told about our hardware before launch. All the money we paid to Bish to spread the gospel. It was all for nothing. Well, I have had enough. It ends Today!" he shouted
But the following silence rang almost as loud.
"W-what do you mean?"
Silently, Mark walked over to the rack near the wall, where he kept his katana collection. He picked up a wakisashi.
"Please, Mark, reconsider" Shu begged him. I will draw up a nice warm bath for us. You don't have to do this.
"But I do. I have failed us all. I have failed our country. I have failed the Emperor. I have brought eternal shame upon my ancestors. My honour is gone. I have no option but to end it all. Here and now, according to the traditions of our ancestors."
"Mark, don't be silly. No one does that these days. You were not even born here.
"Shu, I love you", Mark said, and plunged the blade into his gut.
He could feel pain spreading from his stomach. And up his spine and down his legs and up his neck. But there was something else there as well. Welling up inside him growing stronger every moment. And he started imagining things. He could smell the invigorating scent of hamburgers sizzling in a skillet. The feeling of a gun in his hand. And the sensation growing inside him was growing every stronger. In his minds eye he could see broad stripes and bright stars o'er the ramparts so gallantly streaming. He was vaguely aware of Shu shouting. No? That was not Shu. It was someone far more studly. Phil's chiseled pecs were gently brushing against his shoulder as sweet words were whispered in his ears, about content and experiences, and the infinite power of the cloud. And the sensation inside him was now a roaring storm, welling up ever more vigorous in his loins, drowning out the world with its all-encompassing whiteness.
In a basement at the other end of the world, Hindle woke up in his bed, feeling flustered.
Insane Metal
Member
Sorry, I thought it was more. Good numbers for both, then! But software sold A LOT more on the XBone.
Aquamarine
Member
wii u doesn't have a problem with 1st-party software.
the nintendo brand remains strong.
the problem is the wii u ecosystem.
loaf of bread
Member
200 you said right?
Magic Mushroom
Member
Yup. A console that is rocketing towards 20 million systems sold and doesn't need price drops (and bleeding money as a result) to sell well is not going anywhere soon, especially since their Winter/Spring line-up looks pretty interesting (at least for me with Bloodborne on the way).
For Sony's it's not about 'winning' months in the US, it's about making money. Lord knows they bled enough of that with the PS3.
~200k diff based on posts
Stone Ocean
Member
200ish yeah. So the PS4 did top a million? That's pretty good.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
He says it in a followup with saying its around 200k... which is still not as big of a difference as I would have figured given the difference in price.
Aquamarine
Member
nothing is confirmed
this is super-early as far as npd threads go
still lots and lots of time for confirmations
SodiumBenzoate
Member
the DUDEBRO demographic continues to dominate
People were NOT talking about that.
We don't know that either. Could be 10 units more for each game in theory.
RespectThySole
Member
So it's not 100k then
CaptainSlow
Member
Can people really not read? They see a picture of a candy bar and assume it's XB1-PS4 diff. He was referring to the Wii U...
shinra-bansho
Member
I think the galactic cheese is telling us that the PS4/XB1 gap for December is around 200K.
While the Wii U is either up 100K or on alternative reading of the candy bar 30%ish than December 2012.
While the Wii U is either up 100K or on alternative reading of the candy bar 30%ish than December 2012.
The Last One
Member
My 100K post was based on this post:
Don't know why people are assuming is for that candy bar lol
Don't know why people are assuming is for that candy bar lol
Too bad we have no clue about digital copies though. Incomplete data. Not sure if retail winning means overall winning. Anyone?
Stone Ocean
Member
Yeah, we have all day long and many pie charts to decipher!
shinobi602
Member
But console gaming is dead.
ferrasvansen
Member
Yeah the thread was moving so fast I fell for the 100k damn must not be so slow lol, old age setting in.
Officerrob
Banned
This will be ignored, 100k will be repeated for the next 50 pages
oh okay then
Final Verdict
Member
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
I love cheese, but needs a bit of bread too, especially the end part.
P.S. Only few people will get this lol
Space cheese also responded to someone repeating the 100k difference with "2x." So I'm assuming it's a 200k difference between XBox One and PS4.
SDCowboy
Member
I agree. I'm just saying there is no reason why it can't happen.
Yeah, I feel we're going further and further toward the point where dedicated devices are no longer of interest to more casual audiences, but seem to be resonating very well with their core audiences.
The Wii U put up its best numbers on what is arguably its most core oriented game to boot toward this end.
Nightengale
Member
I never said they were better than XB1's deals. Just... more competitive than early November.
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
So, if we are to believe the whispers of XBO > PS4 by 100k or so, plus winning the software front, I'd say MS did a great job.
Congrats to all though.
Happy the Wii U is gaining momentum.
Congrats to all though.
Happy the Wii U is gaining momentum.
Yeah, it's probably premature to take any numbers seriously.
That said, It's weird to see so many people buying into this Phil Spencer effect stuff. His novelty T-shirts aren't making Xbones leave store shelves, MS' ridiculous ability to eat losses is. You're going to move units when you can run promos undercutting your competition by huge chunks of cash during the holidays.
It's not like the PS4 has an overwhelming install advantage. Though I think XB1 multi plats doing better in December combined with the good sales of 360 software show how the strong the Xbox brand is in the USA.
So about ~500k LTD diff left?
loaf of bread
Member
Thats not where it comes from. We estimated combined sales at 2.33 mil, XB1 is estimated at 1.2 mil, hence PS4 1.1 mil, 100k.
Its 200k difference according to Queso
RedAssedApe
Banned
where is this 100k coming from? nevermind...right above me
Neuromancer
Member
I have no words