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NPD Sales for July 2015

Vena

Member
that, or sales really dropped off in the second month.

edit: it beat batman. nevermind.

Was going to say "beat batman" but you edited before I could. Also its Miiverse is really active which has been a generally decent gauge of game population.
 

Welfare

Member
Hmm interesting. Still, FIFA at #9 overall in the US is great! Remember this is happening in EA's country of origin whom 20 years ago almost didn't launch the first FIFA on fears that it wouldn't sell.

Any word on how Madden and FIFA stack up to each other but on a worldwide scale? I know FIFA wins but by how much?

Can't say as we rarely get sales numbers from the rest of the world that is not Japan.
 

Elios83

Member
Why are we always getting the PS4 numbers for last? It's late here :p
It seems like there's always a journalist/blogger/analyst with access to NPD datas willing to give hints easily revealing XB1 hardware numbers while no one does the same for PS4 or other platforms. Nintendo gives the percentages by themselves usually.
 

BeforeU

Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
All the more reason Microsoft should have held onto that COD contract

Those people who only play COD on 360, they are going to want the DLC first no?

But two of those games are going to be on PS4. And CoD and Battlefront are both going to have DLC partnerships with Playstation. Not to mention more of their friends are likely to have Playstations at this point.

I MEAN now we are just trying to think how an average COD player would think lol I personally don't know. But I am highly doubt that 7 years of mindshare, would change within 1 release. Just like MGS V example I gave before, if somehow MS is marketing that, that brand is still associated with PS, and will always sell more on that. No matter how much marketing money you put it. But we will see.

And no Battlefront has no added DLC partnership with PS. At least none that I know of. Actually it will be playable first on Xbox One via EA Access. If anything, that word of mouth might push some units. Again all speculations.
 

AniHawk

Member
I'm not sure what Vita, or handhelds in general, have to do with the matter. They weren't even included in the chart that was discussed.

The worldwide XBO sales are likely to go down from last gen when this gen is wrapped, but I think that's more to do with their launch issues than the decline of the console market.

There may be a downfall in sales in the coming years, but the past 21 months haven't really warranted the doom-mongering.

dedicated handhelds are still dedicated hardware.

the launch issues won't be the reasons the xbox one declines from its predecessor. the 360, ps3, and ds were all able to overcome their modest launches and turn out better hardware sales than the nes and gba. the xbox one will suffer declines because the market in general is transforming into something else.
 

kswiston

Member
gen 6 hardware: microsoft (24m) + sony (156m) = 180m
gen 7 hardware: microsoft (90m) + sony (175m) = 265m
gen 8 hardware: microsoft (60m) + sony (115m) = 175m

with nintendo:

gen 6: +103m = 283m
gen 7: +255m = 520m
gen 8: +80m = 255m

and people have been telling me i've been generous with my predictions. it's not even the full story of gen 6, where there were other handhelds and consoles involved. the full number there is closer to 300m.

Handhelds are on life support, so comparisons with them included going forward are going to look terrible. A lot of that market is now the mobile games market. I am really curious to see how Nintendo's next handheld makes out.

I think home consoles are on their way to becoming more of an enthusiast market again. The core market is still obviously large enough to support select AAA franchises, the digital marketplace and handful of niche retail releases, but we won't see the variety and demographics that we saw in the previous few generations.
 
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I MEAN now we are just trying to think how an average COD player would think lol I personally don't know. But I am highly doubt that 7 years of mindshare, would change within 1 release. Just like MGS V example I gave before, if somehow MS is marketing that, that brand is still associated with PS, and will always sell more on that. No matter how much marketing money you put it. But we will see.

And no Battlefront has no added DLC partnership with PS. At least none that I know of. Actually it will be playable first on Xbox One via EA Access. If anything, that word of mouth might push some units. Again all speculations.

You should read Abdiel's post.

The MGSV example is also not equivalent to the COD situation. The Metal Gear series has a much longer history with Playstation. MGS 1 & 2 were timed exclusive to the PS1 & PS2, respectively. MGS 3 was exclusive to the PS2 until the MGS Collection. MGS4 was exclusive to the PS3. COD had no such history with either the XBox or Playstation consoles.
 

Melchiah

Member
dedicated handhelds are still dedicated hardware.

the launch issues won't be the reasons the xbox one declines from its predecessor. the 360, ps3, and ds were all able to overcome their modest launches and turn out better hardware sales than the nes and gba. the xbox one will suffer declines because the market in general is transforming into something else.

It's a different situation with that market though, as phones and tablets are directly competing with them. And I was discussing about the sales based on the chart, which only included home consoles, when you first replied to my post. So, let's stick to the subject.

The PS3 was able to overcome the launch hurdles due to the PS platform's popularity in Europe and Japan, where it managed to sell more than the 360. This time the XBO has lost some of its ground in NA and UK, where it was the strongest, and is being outsold in every region. That's why it's unlikely to reach the worldwide sales of last gen, not because of anything else.
 

StevieP

Banned
It's a different situation with that market though, as phones and tablets are directly competing with them. And I was discussing about the sales based on the chart, which only included home consoles, when you first replied to my post. So, let's stick to the subject.

The PS3 was able to overcome the launch hurdles due to the PS platform's popularity in Europe and Japan, where it managed to sell more than the 360. This time the XBO has lost some of its ground in NA and UK, where it was the strongest, and is being outsold in every region. That's why it's unlikely to reach the worldwide sales of last gen, not because of anything else.

Open and growing markets (like tablets) aren't Just eating handheld sales.
 
PS4 weak place for LEGO continue to point out the fact that the PlayStation brand is more and more core gaming centric and driven I think. Minecraft and things like Just Dance are also selling less units on Sony's platforms.

In fact, I don't remember Sony having a single success on the casual/family department since the end of the PS2 era (not sure if we can include LBP in that category). PS Move ? Dead. Wonderbook ? Dead on arrival. Singstar ? Deader than dead.
 
Handhelds are on life support, so comparisons with them included going forward are going to look terrible. A lot of that market is now the mobile games market. I am really curious to see how Nintendo's next handheld makes out.

I think home consoles are on their way to becoming more of an enthusiast market again. The core market is still obviously large enough to support select AAA franchises, the digital marketplace and handful of niche retail releases, but we won't see the variety and demographics that we saw in the previous few generations.
damn if the 3ds is on life support, what does that make anything thats not the ps4? cause i dont see any other console thats gonna be selling as well as the 3ds but the ps4
 

Maniel

Banned
damn if the 3ds is on life support, what does that make anything thats not the ps4? cause i dont see any other console thats gonna be selling as well as the 3ds but the ps4
Well the xbo will sell better if we r only talking about the U.S. Worldwide I agree, but I can see xbo still selling more software than 3ds.
 

Yurikerr

This post isn't by me, it's by a guy with the same username as me.
In fact, I don't remember Sony having a single success on the casual/family department since the end of the PS2 era (not sure if we can include LBP in that category). PS Move ? Dead. Wonderbook ? Dead on arrival. Singstar ? Deader than dead.

Singstar is pretty popular on Europe.

This gameindustrybiz articles cites that the game sold more than 16 million copies since the Ps2 debut:

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/singstar-reaches-20-million-sales
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/singstar-the-stats
 

Fat4all

Banned
People don't seem to understand the marketability of Minecraft. Merchandise, a Hollywood movie, spin-off games... It's a cultural phenomenon.

It's like the Tertis boom all over again.
 

Vena

Member
I know, but what I'm saying is Minecraft isn't the biggest right now, nor is it the biggest in terms of historical influence and legacy.

LoL and Minecraft have both had an indelible affect on the market, at least, with all the clones due to their staggering successes. :p

That reminds me, I need to get Fiora today...
 
Hmm interesting. Still, FIFA at #9 overall in the US is great! Remember this is happening in EA's country of origin whom 20 years ago almost didn't launch the first FIFA on fears that it wouldn't sell.

Any word on how Madden and FIFA stack up to each other but on a worldwide scale? I know FIFA wins but by how much?

There was a great article with former EA devs about the development of the first FIFA game (back in 1993) and how basically they got away and avoided cancellation for months and that at the end EA basically wanted to call it TEAM USA SOCCER.

It is an awesome read, people interested in the history of the game should check it out.
 

Esque7

Member
I feel like removing Wii hardware when comparing to gen 7 would be the same as removing the PS2 from gen 6. People like to single out the Wii and as the only console casual sensation, but the PS2 was very similar.
 
Can't speak for any other retailers, but at least in our stores, PS4 leads on preorders for Black Ops III and Battlefront (Interestingly, we actually saw a decent switch of XB1 to PS4 preorders with the full announcements of the competitive stuff and the DLC switch.).
Thank you for providing real facts to counteract all the wishful thinking.
 

Memento

Member
PS4 weak place for LEGO continue to point out the fact that the PlayStation brand is more and more core gaming centric and driven I think. Minecraft and things like Just Dance are also selling less units on Sony's platforms.

In fact, I don't remember Sony having a single success on the casual/family department since the end of the PS2 era (not sure if we can include LBP in that category). PS Move ? Dead. Wonderbook ? Dead on arrival. Singstar ? Deader than dead.

Little Big Planet is huge. The series were sitting at 8,5 million back at 2012 (not counting the Vita one, which means LBP1, LBP2 and LBP PSP). There is also the DLC revenue that must be huge: 60 million downloads as of 2012. They are all critically acclaimed too: 95 metacritic (LBP1), 92 metacritic (LBP2), 87 metacritic (LBP PSP) & 88 metacritic (LBP Vita).

The only black sheep of the story is LBP3 (79 metacritic and we don't have numbers). But Sony practically sent it to die releasing it alongside the heavy hitters of the holiday period.
 

Rourkey

Member
5 of those games were released last year and another is a Lego game.

Pretty poor if you ask me

XB1+PS4 is 50% higher than 360+PS3 but does that take into account the fact the PS3 wasn't released at the same time as the 360?
 
Little Big Planet is huge. The series were sitting at 8,5 million back at 2012 (not counting the Vita one, which means LBP1, LBP2 and LBP PSP). There is also the DLC revenue that must be huge: 60 million downloads as of 2012. They are all critically acclaimed too: 95 metacritic (LBP1), 92 metacritic (LBP2), 87 metacritic (LBP PSP) & 88 metacritic (LBP Vita).

The only black sheep of the story is LBP3 (79 metacritic and we don't have numbers). But Sony practically sent it to die releasing it alongside the heavy hitters of the holiday period.
MM should've made LBP3. I loved LBP2, and I think 3 fucking sucked.
 

Maniel

Banned
5 of those games were released last year and another is a Lego game.

Pretty poor if you ask me

XB1+PS4 is 50% higher than 360+PS3 but does that take into account the fact the PS3 wasn't released at the same time as the 360?
I'm pretty sure it does. Ps4/xbo sold much more during the holidays than PS3/xb360 did in the beginning
 
League of Legends is bigger than Minecraft now, and it's not like Minecraft has been around long enough to build a historical legacy.

I'd say they're just hard to compare. Minecraft has 70 million total sales with 20 million on PC alone, and has merchandise everywhere, even a Lego line. I'd say its bigger culturally due to its sheer popularity with kids. And if it hasn't had a legacy yet it'll have one soon, its been out for 7 years and is only getting more popular. By 2017 I bet it'll have sold over a hundred million copies across all platforms
 
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