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Michelle Rodriguez talks about GameCube
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XS+ said:
How in the hell does that make sense? Nobody can deny the physical processor speed, memory, etc are superior on the XBox. If and when they make a MGS upgrade on the XBox, it'll be even better. That's not irrelevant. Technical capabilities also include things like not having to buy a memory card and being able to use custom soundtracks. I can't copy my mp3s from my computer to my PS2 hard drive and have them replace the horrible music in Burnout 3. I can't go to a karaoke website and pick from thousands of songs which ones I'd like to download and play in the karaoke music mixer. Irrelevant, HA.
TheGreenGiant
Banned
AssMan said:
I sorta AWTP.
She was cool when she did Girlfight and then promptly sold out to be some hollywood cock whore. Absolutely disgraceful how she went from okay to ho; every fucking movie she runs around like she's tough.. only cause she's bulldog ugly and manlike - non of that GirlFight sensivity in her latter roles.
Boo Urnn
She is right about the gamecube though.
disabledHeliocentric
Member
Do The Mario said:
I'll agree with your opinions baby, oh yeah, just don't stop the rhythmic gyrating motions and don't look over at that GCN perched in the corner of my love den, oh yeah.
disabledHeliocentric
Member
Lakitu said:
Watch a lot of crappy films, eh?
Heliocentric said:
At least he's capable of becoming emotionally engaged by the stories of the games he plays. That's more than I can say for the people who dismiss stories in games as 'stupid' or 'pointless', and proudly proclaim that they 'only play games for the gameplay. (This apparently makes them more 'hardcore' than people whose enjoyment of a game is influenced in part by the settings, characters, and plot.) I think preconceptions like those are a far greater obstacle to people embracing the narrative dimension of games than any deficiencies in the games themselves.
I think that's mostly because you're more attached (interaction).Lakitu said:
I agree that direction, dialogue, plot, etc in videogames is far from the quality of movies, generally speaking. The best videogame direction (MGS3?) is better than the worst motion picture direction (any number of examples).
disabledHeliocentric
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Well, gaming is big enough for games that have different implements as far as the story.
MGS is a series which uses a lot of cutscenes. And it works for that game. But I'm not sure that would make a Legend of Zelda game or a Mario game much better. It'd just sit on top of what's already there. You strip away all of those codecs and cut scenes and what's there in MGS?
Some disorganized snippets of gameplay that don't make sense.
Personally I think the opening theme of any Zelda game tells more of a worthy story than the entire Jak trilogy combined in every aspect of its existance.
Now, a game like Deus Ex or KOTOR? That's the kind of storytelling I want to see more of.
But at the same time, doesn't do for me what a movie like Taxi Driver, Shortcuts, Breaking the Waves, Blue Velvet can do. Not even close. I'd say Wind Waker or Resident Evil gets closer to those sort of feeling than any codec scene or Tidus and Yuna love triangle.
MGS is a series which uses a lot of cutscenes. And it works for that game. But I'm not sure that would make a Legend of Zelda game or a Mario game much better. It'd just sit on top of what's already there. You strip away all of those codecs and cut scenes and what's there in MGS?
Some disorganized snippets of gameplay that don't make sense.
Personally I think the opening theme of any Zelda game tells more of a worthy story than the entire Jak trilogy combined in every aspect of its existance.
Now, a game like Deus Ex or KOTOR? That's the kind of storytelling I want to see more of.
But at the same time, doesn't do for me what a movie like Taxi Driver, Shortcuts, Breaking the Waves, Blue Velvet can do. Not even close. I'd say Wind Waker or Resident Evil gets closer to those sort of feeling than any codec scene or Tidus and Yuna love triangle.
SolidSnakex
Member
" You strip away all of those codecs and cut scenes and what's there in MGS?
Some disorganized snippets of gameplay that don't make sense."
You strip that all away and you're still left with the best stealth games out there. The series wouldn't get all the high scores and consumer praise if they were just nice cutscenes and stories as you're suggesting.
Some disorganized snippets of gameplay that don't make sense."
You strip that all away and you're still left with the best stealth games out there. The series wouldn't get all the high scores and consumer praise if they were just nice cutscenes and stories as you're suggesting.
Mega Man's Electric Sheep
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"I'd say Wind Waker or Resident Evil gets closer to those sort of feeling than any codec scene or Tidus and Yuna love triangle."
There was a love triangle? Who was the third person? Tidus' dad?
There was a love triangle? Who was the third person? Tidus' dad?
Kanbee-san
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XS+ said:
ha ha ha :lol
SolidSnakex
Member
DavidDayton said:
You aren't trying to compare the quality of a MG game to Night Trap are you?
dark10x said:
That's poor example, however. That's no different than pointing to MG:TTS to show inferiority.
I think the whole power issue is overblown, however. All three system have their strengths and at the end of the day neither machine stomps the other ones with its power.
Littleberu
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ge-man said:
The Xbox does, it's just not at the advantage of the third parties, which is why we don't see that many impressive games on Xbox.
tahrikmili
Member
I love how things on this forum always seems to degrade to "YOUR FAVORITE CONSOLE SUCKS!"
Really. So mature
Really. So mature
Hitler Stole My Potato
Banned
God damn you people fucking lame. Don't you get tired of arguing over the same idiotic bullshit 24/7?
Fuckin' dorks.
Fuckin' dorks.
Littleberu said:
How do you quantify it? That's the problem. I don't think that fact that you see more bump-mapped games or high poly games should be consider the defining factors. What about fillrate--the PS2 eats the other consoles for breakfast in this regard. And the GC's static T&L gives it a nice speed advantage in certain situations. Our any of these features less significant than the Xbox's?
Yes, 3rd parties aren't likely tapping into the full potential of the system, but the same could be across the board (including the PS2.) This is inevitable with multiplatform development--the developers are going to stay away from some of the bigger system optimizations for sake of time and money.
Jonnyboy117
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neptunes said:
No, she already was.
To everybody who is mad at people defending their systems: welcome to GAF.
To everybody who doesn't understand why she would do this: She's an angry, blunt girl who craves and needs attention. She loves her aggressive games and hating GC falls into her need for attention as well as her aggression since the other systems have the adult gaming connotation, while GC obviously has the opposite.
And without care for anything she's said game-related: she's ugly and her acting skills suck. (I hope I'm not breaking TOS by saying that). I find her offensive but not because she's trashy (commonly held opinion). Mainly because I see her as selfish and classless, and wholly unintelligent. Though she must have some brains to get herself hired so often.
To everybody who doesn't understand why she would do this: She's an angry, blunt girl who craves and needs attention. She loves her aggressive games and hating GC falls into her need for attention as well as her aggression since the other systems have the adult gaming connotation, while GC obviously has the opposite.
And without care for anything she's said game-related: she's ugly and her acting skills suck. (I hope I'm not breaking TOS by saying that). I find her offensive but not because she's trashy (commonly held opinion). Mainly because I see her as selfish and classless, and wholly unintelligent. Though she must have some brains to get herself hired so often.
TheGreenGiant
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michelle rodriguez is the new bulldog. Every nazi should own one.
The Guivre
Member
Ever since I found this thread I watched and read each page... and now, I unveil THIS!
Heh... Good acting.. I can't argue she's at least getting work, which is what actors do.
Her opinion I could care less about. But if it gives fan boys and excuse to fight, gain kudos and prestige amongst other fanboys, or take their high horse on a ride around the forum, well 6+ pages can't lie.
Heh... Good acting.. I can't argue she's at least getting work, which is what actors do.
Her opinion I could care less about. But if it gives fan boys and excuse to fight, gain kudos and prestige amongst other fanboys, or take their high horse on a ride around the forum, well 6+ pages can't lie.
Amir0x said:
Almost nothing in the cinema this year has impressed me, the last time I was emotionally engaged in a movie was Return of the King, so if you have recommendations, then by any means bring them by me. I really really wanted to enjoy the movies I've seen this year, but no. Hero however, amazing, but it's a foreign film, not from Hollywood.
Lakitu said:
Ok, I will put aside how hilariously wrong you are about videogame stories in comparrison to movie stories for a second. If you can get past the horrific writing, the crappy direction of 98.9% of games and the the ridiculous acting (in comparrison to films), then I'll just have to move to what I personally reccomend for movies.
This year has had many films worth checking out. And by the way, you said "movies" not "hollywood movies", so movies in general include things like HERO.
My personal picks:
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (my pick for film of the year)
Motorcycle Diaries
Finding Neverland
Hotel Rwanda
Spider-Man 2
Maria Full of Grace
Kinsey
Closer
Hellboy
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring
House of Flying Daggers
HERO
Garden State
Wilbur Wants to Kill Himself
Collateral
Ray (for the great performance of Jamie Foxx only, though)
The Chorus (Les Choristes)
Z Channel: A Magnificent Obsession
The Story of the Weeping Camel
The Sea Inside
Sideways
Before Sunset
The Incredibles
And that's just some I have personally found to be great. This doesn't even take in upcoming films like The Aviator, or films I haven't seen like Million Dollar Baby, Vera Drake, Paper Clips, Since Otar Left, Stage Beauty, Undertow, The Woodsman...
Films own videogames in terms of storytelling, direction and art.
Amir0x said:
Thanks for those recommendations even though I've seen some of them, but one film that's a must watch for me is Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.
I guess I went over the top with that comment, I guess to me, I enjoy games as an entertainment form much more than movies, and that game storylines are fine the way they are, they don't need a proffesional writer like she implies.
Is it too late for me to take that comment back?
Amir0x said:
Or perhaps he just values certain attributes inherent to games, like immersiveness and player participation, more highly than you do. Games are not movies, and the need to structure game narratives to accomodate gameplay provides the would-be storyteller with both unique opportunities and constraints. (Just as an off-the-cuff example, tragic endings generally don't work well in games, since they tend to conflict with the goal-oriented reward structures that typify the medium. Most people don't want to spend hours using an on-screen surrogate to overcome an escalating series of challenges, only to be 'rewarded' by seeing that character die. This sort of thing tends to work far better in film, a passive medium where the viewer's emotional investment in the hero's journey doesn't need to be matched by an equal investment of time and effort in order for the character to proceed.) IMO, games with strong narrative elements are participatory wish-fulfillment fantasies--interactive daydreams, if you will. They're an artform unto themselves, and comparing them unfavorably to films because they don't do the same things as well is missing the entire point.
Amir0x said:
Actually, as I recall, he said the he found the stories of the games he's played more emotionally involving than any movies he's seen lately. That's something I can relate to. And your answer to this was that he must have been watching garbage, with the implication that a good movie will always be more emotionally engaging than any game. Perhaps that's the case for you, but I'm completely the opposite--a simple story that I am actively involved in advancing will almost always engender a stronger response than a two-hour film where I'm sitting in a chair watching a bunch of characters do things without any sort of input from me whatsoever. I believe many narrative elements in games that detractors label 'cliched' are not just lazy storytelling, but are conscious decisions made by the scenario writers in order to foster a greater emotional resonance in the player.
Trying to assert that 'movie narrative > game narrative' is like saying that 'all books > movies' because books allow the reader to get into characters' heads in a way that no movie can. It's a true statement as far as it goes, but it conveniently ignores the visual storytelling aspect of film, which is the medium's greatest strength. Saying that the stories in games are inherently lacking while dismissing the inherent benefits and constraints imposed on them by interactivity would be like saying that no movie scriptbook can ever be as emotionally engaging as a book, because the story is all that's worth discussing, and the medium used to present it is irrelevant to the nature or quality of that story.
That is false.
Period.