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Are we talking about 30-50K sales worldwide or in Japan? If Japan, When titles like Just Dance Wii U are hovering around the 50K mark right now, how are indie titles expected to hit that exactly?
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Media Create Sales: Week 22, 2014 (May 26 - Jun 01)
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Are we talking about 30-50K sales worldwide or in Japan? If Japan, When titles like Just Dance Wii U are hovering around the 50K mark right now, how are indie titles expected to hit that exactly?
Agito is starting to recover on iOS:
There was an update on June 2nd. It went down for a bit after that, but perhaps they've fixed most of the critical bugs after having seven post launch patches and then started up an event.
Notably, for the newest update, while there are still a bunch of 1 star reviews, there's no longer an increasing downward trend with star ratings and 5 star reviews make up a bigger chunk overall. I'm guessing people who like social games are now more satisfied while traditional FF fans are still upset.
There was an update on June 2nd. It went down for a bit after that, but perhaps they've fixed most of the critical bugs after having seven post launch patches and then started up an event.
Notably, for the newest update, while there are still a bunch of 1 star reviews, there's no longer an increasing downward trend with star ratings and 5 star reviews make up a bigger chunk overall. I'm guessing people who like social games are now more satisfied while traditional FF fans are still upset.
Vita holiday in 2012 was: Call of Duty Declassified, Assassin's Creed Liberation, AKB 1/149 and Fate/Stay Night.
PS4 holiday this year will be: Call of Duty Advanced Warfare, Assassin's Creed Unity and... (Guilty Gear Xrd?)
Pro: Western PS4 games are of a higher profile, not third grade portable spin-offs.
Con: All PS4 games are cross-gen, while Vita had mostly exclusives.
I think the PS4 holiday is going to be less shitty by an infinitesimal margin.
Smiles and Cries
Member
Sales age, how much did Monster Hunter sell on WiiU?
just thinking of chances for WiiU version of MH4U
just thinking of chances for WiiU version of MH4U
KillerMan91
Member
Only a small correction but Unity will not be cross gen.
SwiftDeath
Member
I'm not much of a Japanese Sales-age Gaffer but the last time we got an LTD for the Wii U SKU of Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate seems to be Week 4 of 2013 at around 200k or so
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=510733&highlight=media+create+2013
I think Frontier G also released on the Wii U in Japan? But can't find sales numbers for it during it's supposed release date of Dec. 11 2013.
frankie_baby
Member
I'd say it's fair to guess it's eeked itself by now to somewhere in the 250k to 300k range, if anyone can find a more recent number it'd be great
Frontier G sold almost nothing on anything
Smiles and Cries
Member
not even sure why they wasted porting resources on Frontier G, do they not notice the trend. Or even see what fans want?
Capcom is becoming a digitally focused company, so recurring subscription revenues strike them as more appealing than a one off boxed product.
That's why they went all in on Frontier, to try and get as many extra subscribers as possible.
This is also why they're releasing a bunch of mobile titles, browser titles, and online pc games for Asia (recurring revenue) and making things like Deep Down f2p on console.
frankie_baby
Member
I'd imagine anyone that coughs up the retail price for an effectively massively outdated version of monhun is so obsessive they'd also subscribe and spend a fortune on microtransactions
Capcom annual financial report statement ending March 31, 2013:
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/05/capcom_describes_monster_hunter_3_ultimate_as_a_smash_hit
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/05/capcom_describes_monster_hunter_3_ultimate_as_a_smash_hit
Famitsu reported that MH Tri G HD Ver. sold 218,831 copies as of September 29, 2013. As of this January, Portable 3rd HD on PS3 has sold 441,375 units.
frankie_baby
Member
So a respectable performance I'd say, 4g hd I would guess is inevitable though it is in capcpom's interest to keep it under wraps until after the 3ds version drops
TreasureHunterG
Banned
I agree with many of this, but not everything. Portable success actually did cannibalize the home console market in Japan. Even though I agree some of the IPs were more successful due to portability as Monster Hunter and Animal Crossing, some IPs, once very identified with home consoles, migrated to portables.
Kingdom Hearts: From KH2 onward, we got seven games of the series, only 1 was for a home console and was a remake.
Dragon Quest: From DQ8 onward, all it's titles, remakes included, were portable titles, outside of DQ10 which was a MMO.
Super Mario: From Sunshine onward, 8 titles. 3 portables titles: NSMB, SM3DL and NSMB2 coming out first and NSMB Wii, SM3DW and NSMBU being heavily inspired from them.
Zelda: From Majora's Mask onward: 14 games, 9 of them portable.
Although some franchises remained consoles focused, like MGS, RE, Tales of and FF, they got major portable treatment as games like Peace Walker, Revelations, Hearts and Type-0 were big bets.
This, combined with everything you say, cannibalize the home console market as many of the major IPs once identified with it left it out or, in a way, had it's contribution for the portable market exodus.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Comgnet Launch Week Points
[PSV] Persona 4 Golden - 310pt (152,499)
[3DS] Shin Megami Tensei IV - 379pt (184,811)
[3DS] Etrian Odyssey IV - 146pt (97,142)
[3DS] Persona Q - 409pt
It's coming.
[PSV] Persona 4 Golden - 310pt (152,499)
[3DS] Shin Megami Tensei IV - 379pt (184,811)
[3DS] Etrian Odyssey IV - 146pt (97,142)
[3DS] Persona Q - 409pt
It's coming.
I'm curious to see what Atlus does with EO going forward because it seems like PQ is going to work out way better for them.
The West is taking over Japan: https://twitter.com/serkantoto/status/475188127623950336
On a more serious note, Western publishers do seem to have some notable success in the region via mobile. King is obviously #1 there and #3 on that list is EA. This is the downloads chart which I find interesting since it reflects what people are acquiring en masse from an interest perspective.
On a more serious note, Western publishers do seem to have some notable success in the region via mobile. King is obviously #1 there and #3 on that list is EA. This is the downloads chart which I find interesting since it reflects what people are acquiring en masse from an interest perspective.
I know COMGNET numbers are not directly influencing overall sales numbers but damn, expecting 200k opening for PQ! Good opening for a Persona spin-off.
Sammy Samusu
Member
They are going to fire whoever is responsible for this:
And give the EO series a more mature approach, with plot and cast.
Magicpaint
Member
Gawd no. Keep EO the way it is. It works. Untold didn't increase the baseline of the sales despite all the extra baggage. Persona Q is its own thing.
I don't understand this mentality. EO games are an established thing at this point. Four entries and a remake all selling around the same figure shows a dedicated fanbase that while not large, remains reliable, and since EO games are cheap to make - there's no reason to stop making them.
I think it would be interesting for them to try combining it with another IP after they make EO5 or something.
Hero of Legend
Member
SINCE WHEN did PQ shoot up like that? It was quite a bit below P4G, now it's leaped over it effortlessly? Wat.
Edit: Found I think the last batch by Mpl90:
It really depends on how Nintendo design the system(s). If they build something while taking the fact that smartphones are ubiquitous into account, the device could become very successful.
If they put out another half-assed blunder like the 3DS, which is probably their most poorly designed handheld to date, it may tank.
Otakumegane
Member
Wtf at those Persona Q numbers.
Wasn't this supposed to be an Oddessy style game?
Wasn't this supposed to be an Oddessy style game?
And your point is?
Magicpaint
Member
I'm okay with experimentation as long as traditional EO games are continually made. Though I dunno what IP they could potentially merge it with at this point? They've already sorta done it with their two biggest ones now: SMT and Persona.
Kresnik258
Member
MPL's numbers were from the daily; Sammy's numbers were from the weekly.
So Persona 4 Golden was pre-ordered more at COMG than Persona Q; but more people went out to buy Persona Q once it had actually released than Persona 4 Golden.
This is quite shocking.
Hero of Legend
Member
I'd fucking love Sonic Odyssey. I'm one of the rare folks who would love a Sonic JRPG, there I said it.
I'd much prefer one that's full 3D with a free-roaming world. But yeah it could work I guess in EO's dungeon crawling style. Make it more like Persona Q where the characters interact in real-time (you actually see them in full 3D).
Magicpaint
Member
I...completely forgot about dat Sega. Ha.
I can totally see the last one happening now ;_;
Hero of Legend
Member
Just realized a mind-blowing fact that if Sonic Odyssey happens...
It will be Yuzo Koshiro's first Sonic game since Sonic the Hedgehog 8-bit.
jeremy1456
Junior Member
Hero of Legend
Member
That was Bioware though.
Monster Strike has now surpassed 8 million downloads worldwide.
It continues to monetize well above its download count compared to its compatriots at the top of the charts.
It continues to monetize well above its download count compared to its compatriots at the top of the charts.
jeremy1456
Junior Member
They have the only viable dedicated handheld. Both in Japan and worldwide.
The 3DS doesn't need monster hunter, and I think It's in Capcom's best interest. No other current gen platforms are viable in Japan aside from 3DS.
Do they even have plans for a console version?
Metal Slug Defense (iOS/Android - F2P) reaches 5 million downloads worldwide* in 34 days: http://app.famitsu.com/20140609_389945/
That number shocked me to the point where I thought I was wrong, or a typo happened. 万 = tens of thousands, so 500万 = 5 000 000. The Google Play installation number is between 1 - 5 million, so I guess that figure is correct?! Has the Metal Slug series combined sold 5 million units? I wouldn't think so.
*China not included
edit: erm, I probably should've read the Google Play description:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.snkplaymore.android003
Not at the moment. But this is Capcom, and they like to get people to double dip.
Huh? I'm talking about a home console port of the 3DS game. It would be foolish to keep that exclusive to Wii U.
That number shocked me to the point where I thought I was wrong, or a typo happened. 万 = tens of thousands, so 500万 = 5 000 000. The Google Play installation number is between 1 - 5 million, so I guess that figure is correct?! Has the Metal Slug series combined sold 5 million units? I wouldn't think so.
*China not included
edit: erm, I probably should've read the Google Play description:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.snkplaymore.android003
Not at the moment. But this is Capcom, and they like to get people to double dip.
Huh? I'm talking about a home console port of the 3DS game. It would be foolish to keep that exclusive to Wii U.
Shenmue Odyssy - Shenmue 3 finally happens!!!!!!!
Most likely, they do not.
shinra-bansho
Member
Japan, singular titles maybe, compilations maybe, as something like Terraria seems to have sold around that level.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I'm hoping that PQ makes somes Persona fans into EO fans.
I would not mind if they want to make more games like PQ, but I also need my EO. I'm seriously hoping we get EO5 announced soon.
They are going to fire whoever is responsible for this:
And give the EO series a more mature approach, with plot and cast.
Hey, leave Yuji Himukai out of this! His art is part of what makes EO special.
I'd say the same about Kaneko with SMT but yeah....
Worldwide, right?
I think they should keep releasing more Etrian Odyssey games. and try and make a new SMT spin-off with those gameplay mechanics or even a new IP to see how it does there.
Etrian Odyssey aren't heavy hitters, but they have a dedicated audience (like most Atlus stuff) and give them money, so everything is good. Having a diverse IP roster is always nice.
Pachinko Odyssey?
You're an adicted to pachinko that looks for money under those machines / sofas / phone cabines / whatever. Each time you start to look for some yens you enter a dungeon. There is a "self-awareness bar" for non-dungeon time that changes as you make decisions. There are three endings. In one you overcome your addiction. In the second you become millionaire by using those machines. In the last one you become millionaire but you lose your money and burn Sega Sammy offices in revenge.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
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Yup. PS3 HD of 3rd did more than twice that in Japan and I am sure it would help the series make some in roads in the West as well. Only problem is the cross save or whatever you call it and if it is deemed necessary or viable.
If I were Capcom, I'd atleast bother MAKING 4U HD on WiiU
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Deleted member 125677
Unconfirmed Member
I am also shocked that you two would feel this way.
The question is really what kind of deal nintendo and capcom has for 4. I'm sure capcom will port whatever the contract allows them to.
Strange Journey 2, now with map drawing.
But seriously, I really hope they keep PQ as it's own one off special thing. Last thing we need is for Atlus to milk Persona more than they already are. I would hope that PQ would maybe bring people around to trying EO but there seems to be a portion of the Persona fanbase who refuse to touch other MegaTen games, or are unaware that Persona is a spin-off, so I wouldn't bet on there being many.
Still, I'm sure there will be a few so that's good.
Sammy Samusu
Member
3U HD sold well, and 4U HD would probably sell a lot more.
I think timing is the problem here, Capcom won't release 4U and 4U HD at the same time in Japan, they want people to double dip, and on top of that, they are still working on 4U.
Maybe 4U HD will a be 4DS launch title, out Holiday 2015.
I think timing is the problem here, Capcom won't release 4U and 4U HD at the same time in Japan, they want people to double dip, and on top of that, they are still working on 4U.
Maybe 4U HD will a be 4DS launch title, out Holiday 2015.