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Media Create Sales: Week 19, 2015 (May 4 - May 10)
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KillerMan91
Member
Xenoblade Chronicles X is not a small budget game. That is the problem here.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Poor Xenoblade.
Also Pokemon is above Yo-kai, and so it begins...
Also Pokemon is above Yo-kai, and so it begins...
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
I didn't say it was. I was saying you need expectations. That's why I included western games in my comparison. No matter the budget, you need sales expectations.
If you're telling me the only way XCX isn't a "flop" is if it dramatically outsells Xenoblade, on a smaller install base, that's terrible business sense. Not everything needs to be a smashing success, or a flop. Sometimes things can be "meh" or "ok"
Eolz
Member
Hence my "relatively"
Of course, sales aren't impressive, but I think the legs are not bad. It won't do much in the end, but it didn't drop like some predicted either... I really don't think it's that bad really, and don't think this will have an impact on any possible localisation for example (probably more thanks to Nintendo than S-E, but still).
There was never a comeback.
Thanks for the graphs as always!
There're sub-20k releases.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Considering the circumstances....I would not be surprised.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Prepare the bomba shelter.
Media Creates Top 20, really shows how badly most games launched on PSV and PS4 actually perform in the long run. This isn´t as obvious in weeks with several new releases, since the threshhold to chart isn´t that high to put it mildly, but after the launch week there is a concerningly low amount of games that keeps selling well over the long run.
Minecraft really performing quite well, but obviously held back by the rather limited userbase. Quite ironic that Microsoft actually has a system-seller on store right now in Japan.
You are deliberately chosing the best selling games on PS4, that´s like saying every PSV and especially PS4 game sold like trash because some WiiU games sold close to 1 million units in Japan and no PSV/PS4 game comes even close to this kind of sales.
Really silly how some are trying to ridicule him for basically just saying it sold as expected given the current situation, that´s just beeing realistic given all the performance of most other titles on this ecosystem. So far it looks like it´s going to end up with something like 120k-150 compared to 200k of the first game on Wii.
Minecraft really performing quite well, but obviously held back by the rather limited userbase. Quite ironic that Microsoft actually has a system-seller on store right now in Japan.
You are deliberately chosing the best selling games on PS4, that´s like saying every PSV and especially PS4 game sold like trash because some WiiU games sold close to 1 million units in Japan and no PSV/PS4 game comes even close to this kind of sales.
Really silly how some are trying to ridicule him for basically just saying it sold as expected given the current situation, that´s just beeing realistic given all the performance of most other titles on this ecosystem. So far it looks like it´s going to end up with something like 120k-150 compared to 200k of the first game on Wii.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Puzzle & Dragons has been moved all the way down to #4 on the Japanese top grossing charts, this time due to Square Enix (Dragon Quest) and Namco Bandai (One Piece).
I'm not sure the last time this has happened. Might actually be a few years.
Maybe some of the fans are playing the Mario edition?
Herman Cain
Banned
It was an undercover cop, it was easy to spot as well with that American flag T-shirt.
Certainly possible, but it's a game that's been downloaded 36 million times in Japan, so I'm guessing that DQM and One Piece are having incredibly successful events right now.
And all sold like shit.
No wonder everyone in Japan including Nintendo is going mobile.
dakkumauji
Member
Puzzle & Dragons has been moved all the way down to #4 on the Japanese top grossing charts, this time due to Square Enix (Dragon Quest) and Namco Bandai (One Piece).
I'm not sure the last time this has happened. Might actually be a few years.
I imagine it's mostly due to whatever current events are going on in the games that are causing more people to buy orbs/fruits/gems/whatever.
I'm guessing Monster Strike is hitting it big with their Eva collab and I know One Piece has an one year anniversary hatcher with basically all the best units and more.
It's amazing how well Mixi is doing just in Japan but not anywhere else in the world.
Yes, mobile charts are very event driven.
Some games get so cemented though that you can't get past them. Here we see some more people breaking through than normal.
looking at that DeNA chart, it seems that it's DeNA having close a good deal (Nintendo IPs developed udner their brand) more than the other way around, am I right or wrong?
Hero of Legend
Member
Is P&D still doing well these days? Doesn't seem to be the high it used to be a couple years ago.
footfunghi
Member
yes, lets pretend that the 3ds does not exist !
Hero of Legend
Member
Seriously. SMT4, Persona Q, Bravely Default, all did really well and at least 200k-300k units each.
Oh and DQ7r did over a million, just saying.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
Given how the sequel is even more open world & less linear than the Wii original, I could see Xenoblade X selling better in NA and Europe than it did in Japan. Assuming, of course, that NoA & NoE don't bury its release.
was MK8 bundled in japan? i was under the impression every region except japan got that bundle.
Damn DeNa and GREE...
Zelda's delay probably helps it at least. I hope we see a big push.
For DeNA, this was the deal of a lifetime, especially given their entire business is built upon making games with other people's IPs anyway.
For Nintendo, it was a reasonable deal since DeNA at least has some success, including overseas (which is very rare for Japanese mobile vendors), and can provide them with a competent network.
The ideal for Nintendo would have been to be able to do this all themselves and not have to share, but they really need to accelerate things so that's how we got here.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
sigh =/. Well at least Xeno X crossed 100K (thanks to Famitsu) T_T.
This is really a pretty miserable Golden Week huh. Btw, I find it interesting that PS4 console sales haven't dropped like a rock yet. I guess what are these folks buying on their PS4s if nothing charted lol? I guess it's just really varied or something.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
We'll see updates for a bunch of evergreen 3DS titles at least (Animal Crossing, Mario Kart 7, Kirby, etc.) once someone formats the Famitsu rankings and puts them here.
lazybones18
Banned
nice to see TR Dragon Quest make its way back into the top 20 even if it will probably only last one week
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
For what it's worth, I'm seeing a bit more active of a fanbase on Wii U (compared to the utter deadness of before), but is there really anything to be done at this point to expand it? Maybe a price cut before the holidays could help a bit, but I'm pretty pessimistic about anything at all at this point.
Expand it? Not really. To really get the help it needs, the rest of the industry needs to be healthier. Good PS4 sales could help Wii U sales but the industry in general is depressed.
It's mostly a console discussion.
Preparing for DQH and Bloodborne
I think it's happening the same as in the West, but in a minor scale I guess.
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BTW, can we expect less than 1k for One in May? It's possible that next week, One sales gonna be in two digits, so propably could affect One monthly sales a little bit.
Ps4 games usually dominate the top 20 overseas.
That's not...happening at all.
NPD charts will have plenty of PS4 games in the top 10 tomorrow if history is anything to by.
I was misunderstood.
What I wanted to say is that the console is selling without very big exclusives. In Japan, until MGS V, KH3 or FFXV won't see good numbers for software but not bad for hardware (in the context of Japan, I mean)
Hellraider
Member
I don't understand where this is coming from. Your reasoning, I mean.
I asssumed it'd open well lower than 100k.
It's western sales are what I'm more interested in.
Welfare
Member
Lifetime? Sure, why not.
Opening Week.
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
Wait a minute Nirolak, you have to put it in "Media Create Sales" form for bigger impact.Meanwhile in mobileland.
So let's imagine Monster Strike was a traditional videogame pulling those figures for Mixi, a barely 10-year-old company with little to no previous experience in the videogame industry as a 3rd party and trying with its brand-new IP handled by an old star developer name. Given it is actually getting one of those for 3DS later on, let's assume it was a 3DS game, priced at 4800Y (pre-tax), as it is targeted to a more mainstream audience and fits better development wise compared to mobile than a over 8k yen PS4 AAA title.
Here comes the conflict, its certainly not the same to compare the revenues generated by such different products, but... does the average shareholder actually care that much if its "company product A" or "company product B" making such revenue? Anyway, for comparison purposes, we'll forcefully match them.
$3,800,000 /day ...at 1$ = 119Y right now that's...
Y452,200,000 /day ...so in a week...
Y3,165,400,000 /week ...using the whole 4800Y pricetag of the imaginary product...
It would have to sell an average of 659,458 full-price copies each week to match the revenue, without getting into the share this company would receive for every copy.
So for the whole quarter at that weekly rate, that's 8.5 million copies for that revenue.
I know the comparison is probably reaching too much, but maybe it shows better why traditional videogames companies find the mobile wagon appealing to appease shareholders with some fiscal results and forecasts they could never reach on the traditional medium.
EDIT: Hopefully I'm not rusty enough to get my numbers wrong
Wait a minute Nirolak, you have to put it in "Media Create Sales" form for bigger impact.
So let's imagine Monster Strike was a traditional videogame pulling those figures for Mixi, a barely 10-year-old company with little to no previous experience in the videogame industry as a 3rd party and trying with its brand-new IP handled by an old star developer name. Given it is actually getting one of those for 3DS later on, let's assume it was a 3DS game, priced at 4800Y (pre-tax), as it is targeted to a more mainstream audience and fits better development wise compared to mobile than a over 8k yen PS4 AAA title.
Here comes the conflict, its certainly not the same to compare the revenues generated by such different products, but... does the average shareholder actually care that much if its "company product A" or "company product B" making such revenue? Anyway, for comparison purposes, we'll forcefully match them.
$3,800,000 /day ...at 1$ = 119Y right now that's...
Y452,200,000 /day ...so in a week...
Y3,165,400,000 /week ...using the whole 4800Y pricetag of the imaginary product...
It would have to sell an average of 659,458 full-price copies each week to match the revenue, without getting into the share this company would receive for every copy.
So for the whole quarter at that weekly rate, that's 8.5 million copies for that revenue.
I know the comparison is probably reaching too much, but maybe it shows better why traditional videogames companies find the mobile wagon appealing to appease shareholders with some fiscal results and forecasts they could never reach on the traditional medium.
EDIT: Hopefully I'm not rusty enough to get my numbers wrong
Wow. You are back!
It's been a while.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Splatoon is being advertised a lot more and currently is doing better on comgnet when I expect its sales/preorder ratio actually should be higher than XBX. So yeh, I think there's a chance of it opening over @100K.
Also FWIW, do you think Smash Wii U could hit like 750K LTD? I think 100K more sales in JP is definitely doable at this point over the lifetime of the Wii U.