He's basically saying that if Nintendo titles only appeal to the Nintendo audience, and the 3DS is the only dedicated gaming system with any real life right now, than anyone that isn't part of the smartphone or Nintendo audience must be an otaku. That's my understanding of it.
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Media Create Sales: Week 16, 2014 (Apr 14 - Apr 20)
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He's basically saying that if Nintendo titles only appeal to the Nintendo audience, and the 3DS is the only dedicated gaming system with any real life right now, than anyone that isn't part of the smartphone or Nintendo audience must be an otaku. That's my understanding of it.
shinra-bansho
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Medical imaging was probably too narrow a description; essentially Sony seem to have been making a series of investments for an extended period of time now in medical technologies, the latest of which is a genomic data platform venture with Illumina. It's also a global market worth $300B and expected to grow to $350 by 2018, even just endoscopy is forecast to be worth $35B in 4 years. And these are typically higher margin products.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I guess games like DQ and MH and the countless other 3rd party games on the 3DS play no part in the 3DS success.
I don't really see the point of the phrase 'Nintendo fans' in this context, other than to dismiss them as some all-encompassing faithful that buy any old thing. They have so many franchises split over so many genres that some people might buy them all, some three or four and others just the one. It's not like someone that buys Nintendo party games, Kirby, Animal Crossing and Mario Kart is guaranteed to lap up Fire Emblem, and nor are SRPG fans guaranteed to love Luigi's Mansion and Kid Icarus.
Personally I bought a 3DS for Ghost Recon, Monster Hunter and Etrian Odyssey, combined with the Nintendo IP I really enjoy which are Zelda and FE. I'm not a 'Nintendo fan', unless someone who only buys about 4% of their output counts. Despite the quality of Ninty's work, I've bought more Capcom titles on the 3DS.
Personally I bought a 3DS for Ghost Recon, Monster Hunter and Etrian Odyssey, combined with the Nintendo IP I really enjoy which are Zelda and FE. I'm not a 'Nintendo fan', unless someone who only buys about 4% of their output counts. Despite the quality of Ninty's work, I've bought more Capcom titles on the 3DS.
Man, you've actually typed this. I can't believe it.
Nintendo IP's are the embodiment of inclusive video games. Hell, they are the most well recognized icons of gaming.
EDIT: OK, you've kind of redacted it. That's... comforting.
Pretty much.
I did not catch that, yeah it's a bit truer about people investing in home consoles.
Yeah, I don't believe in a monolithic group of Nintendo fans either, everyone at some level is a Nintendo fan.
Black Republican
Member
probably too depressing to leak
Nah, SAO will have pushed the Vita over 100k, single-handedly rescuing Japan.
....possibly.
Bruno MB
Member
[3DS] Yo-kai Watch <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.07.11} (¥4.800) - 62.683 / 820.504 <80-100%> (+27%)
Yo-kai Watch had its best sales week yet, it should easily be the best-selling game of Golden Week. The only competitor is Mario Golf World Tour but it doesn't seem it will precisely set the charts on fire, at best I expect a 100.000 opening.
Yo-kai Watch will cross the million mark in 2 (maximum 3) weeks. What will it be its ceiling?
Yo-kai Watch had its best sales week yet, it should easily be the best-selling game of Golden Week. The only competitor is Mario Golf World Tour but it doesn't seem it will precisely set the charts on fire, at best I expect a 100.000 opening.
Yo-kai Watch will cross the million mark in 2 (maximum 3) weeks. What will it be its ceiling?
So the leak will come from SmokyDave's pants.
Bruno MB
Member
Famitsu
1. Sword Art Online: Hollow Fragment (Bandai Namco) Vita 136,736
2. Theatrhythm Final Fantasy Curtain Call (Square Enix) 3DS 75,867
3. Youkai Watch (Level 5) 3DS 62,683
4. Mario Party Island Tour (Nintendo) 3DS 17,007
5. Blazblue Chrono Phantasma (Arc) Vita 12,139
6. Famicom Remix 1+2 (Nintendo) Wii U 11,020
7. Dai-3-ji Super Robot Taisen Z: Jigoku-hen PS3 (Bandai Namco) 9,468
8. Kirby: Triple Deluxe (Nintendo) 3DS 7,719
9. Dai-3-ji Super Robot Taisen Z: Jigoku-hen Vita (Bandai Namco) 6,826
10. Ace Attorney 123: Phoenix Wright Collection 3DS (Capcom) 6,367
Hardware:
1. Nintendo 3DS LL 27,380
2. PS Vita 23,650
3. PS4 10,129
4. PS3 7,951
5. Nintendo 3DS 5,978
6. Wii U 5,596
7. PS VitaTV 1,643
8. PSP 1,571
9. Xbox360 152
1. Sword Art Online: Hollow Fragment (Bandai Namco) Vita 136,736
2. Theatrhythm Final Fantasy Curtain Call (Square Enix) 3DS 75,867
3. Youkai Watch (Level 5) 3DS 62,683
4. Mario Party Island Tour (Nintendo) 3DS 17,007
5. Blazblue Chrono Phantasma (Arc) Vita 12,139
6. Famicom Remix 1+2 (Nintendo) Wii U 11,020
7. Dai-3-ji Super Robot Taisen Z: Jigoku-hen PS3 (Bandai Namco) 9,468
8. Kirby: Triple Deluxe (Nintendo) 3DS 7,719
9. Dai-3-ji Super Robot Taisen Z: Jigoku-hen Vita (Bandai Namco) 6,826
10. Ace Attorney 123: Phoenix Wright Collection 3DS (Capcom) 6,367
Hardware:
1. Nintendo 3DS LL 27,380
2. PS Vita 23,650
3. PS4 10,129
4. PS3 7,951
5. Nintendo 3DS 5,978
6. Wii U 5,596
7. PS VitaTV 1,643
8. PSP 1,571
9. Xbox360 152
metalslimer
Member
Still trying to figure out to who....
Black Republican
Member
How many PS4's are sitting on shelves?
Mankind.
BananaSprinkles
Banned
wrong thread, whoops
SwiftDeath
Member
Hmm if you are willing to accept the idea that Sony will get close to 100M sold for PS4 then why would it be so obvious they can't break 100M? Personally I'm not really sure how I feel on the console market at present mostly because of how the software market has changed but assuming demand for PS/XB consoles hasn't changed much, I expect a high chance that PS4 sells greater than 100M WW.
My point before was that Japan was largely irrelevant for the PS4 to reach 100M. Even if they didn't sell the PS4 in Japan at all there is likely enough console demand in the rest of the world for them to hit that number unless the XB1 has a great turnaround. It's a possibility is what I mean and not an unlikely one unless the console market as a whole has contracted more than just the Wii -> Wii U
3DS has ticked up a bit? Otherwise PS3 is fairly stable I guess. Wii U has yet to break the sub-5k barrier again yet. PS4 likely to break sub-10k barrier next week. PS4 has officially crossed streams with the PS3 launch-aligned
WIU 5,596 1,718,700
PS4 10,129 542,141
Wii U has more than triple the userbase and Mario Kart about to come out with Smash later in the year. I'm not convinced that PS4 support will ramp up. The AAA franchises that can sell in the west(FF, MGS, RE etc) sure, but everything else? If you're a Japanese third party would you greenlight PS4 projects targeted to Japan? Better to aim for 3DS, PS3, Vita and yes maybe even Wii U(Fatal Frame) for the bigger userbase and lower dev costs.
Neff
Member
You must be joking.
Assuming they're not lying, they told Famitsu this would be the last game either way and it would become a DLC platform a la Rock Band 3, so I don't think the initial sales will have too much of an effect overall.
Presumably it will also get an iOS/Android port down the road since that kind of business model historically makes more sense there, but there's a fair amount of money to be made with the 3DS release first, especially relative to cost.