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"I Need a New PC!" 2023. 6-24 Cores, Frame Generation, Enhanced Ray Tracing & Direct Storage.
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KuraiShidosha
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I got an order in for two 7950x3D today on Amazon at 9:10 but it still hasn't shipped. How screwed am I?
Believe me, I'm very tempted to get it at Amazon. I do have a Microcenter but it would probably cost me more in gas to get there and back. Also that's not the count the fact it's in "The People's Republic of Cambridge" and I don't want to deal with the traffic there.(Or Cambridge)
GreatnessRD
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I'm enabling you. Def grab it from Amazon for the $315 or whatever price it was. Absolutely a steal for this CPU. I got it for $375+tax from Microcenter in August of last year. The 5800X3D will go down as one of the greatest CPU's of all-time, imo.
Celcius
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Do you plan to use it exclusively for gaming or for some productivity stuff too?
KuraiShidosha
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Gaming.
Celcius
°Temp. member
Oof, undervolting Ampere is essential. I was playing COD Cold War at 4K with ray tracing and max settings on my 3090 (stock settings) and I could literally feel my room heating up as I played a match (in addition to the extra fan noise). I turned my undervolt back on and the difference was huge.
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CrustyBritches
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*moved to correct thread
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Raphael
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Guys,
could you have a look at this build? Any issues with it? - especially asking about cooling, Power supply, case, SSD.
I will probably not touch it for 5+ years (coming from 960gtx + i5 4460) so longevity is important for me.
Plan to play 1080p widescreen, but might upgrade to 1440p widescreen at some point in the future. I play mostly CPU intesive games - grand stategy, total wars, annos, DF-likes, cities skylines etc. Prefer console for action games.
I basically want 60fps / high (1080p or 1440p) on the next batch of total war games and other sequels of the above and probably quite a few cRPGs (BG3, Rogue Trader and the more strategy focused types).
Decided to go with 5800x3d as the cache seems beneficial in those games giving it an edge over 13600k and the 8 performance cores might give it a longer life vs intel once 8c start to be utilized (more).
The overall build cost should hover around1500e (assembly included) but will see if i can negotiate some discount.
Makes sense? Any criticism is appricaited. Thanks in advance.
Sapphire Radeon RX 6750 XT Pulse Gaming OC 12GB GDDR6 (11318-03-20G)
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 3.4 GHz, 96 MB, BOX (100-100000651WOF)
CPU Noctua NH-D15 2x140mm
Płyta główna Gigabyte B550 GAMING X V2
Kingston Fury Renegade, DDR4, 32 GB, 3600MHz, CL16 (KF436C16RB1K2/32)
Corsair RM750e 750W (CP-9020248-EU)
Fractal Design Pop Air RGB TG (FD-C-POR1A-04)
SSD MSI Spatium M371 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-E x4 Gen3 NVMe (S78-440L870-P83)
could you have a look at this build? Any issues with it? - especially asking about cooling, Power supply, case, SSD.
I will probably not touch it for 5+ years (coming from 960gtx + i5 4460) so longevity is important for me.
Plan to play 1080p widescreen, but might upgrade to 1440p widescreen at some point in the future. I play mostly CPU intesive games - grand stategy, total wars, annos, DF-likes, cities skylines etc. Prefer console for action games.
I basically want 60fps / high (1080p or 1440p) on the next batch of total war games and other sequels of the above and probably quite a few cRPGs (BG3, Rogue Trader and the more strategy focused types).
Decided to go with 5800x3d as the cache seems beneficial in those games giving it an edge over 13600k and the 8 performance cores might give it a longer life vs intel once 8c start to be utilized (more).
The overall build cost should hover around1500e (assembly included) but will see if i can negotiate some discount.
Makes sense? Any criticism is appricaited. Thanks in advance.
Sapphire Radeon RX 6750 XT Pulse Gaming OC 12GB GDDR6 (11318-03-20G)
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 3.4 GHz, 96 MB, BOX (100-100000651WOF)
CPU Noctua NH-D15 2x140mm
Płyta główna Gigabyte B550 GAMING X V2
Kingston Fury Renegade, DDR4, 32 GB, 3600MHz, CL16 (KF436C16RB1K2/32)
Corsair RM750e 750W (CP-9020248-EU)
Fractal Design Pop Air RGB TG (FD-C-POR1A-04)
SSD MSI Spatium M371 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-E x4 Gen3 NVMe (S78-440L870-P83)
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LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
That is solid build ^^^
As for me it's been quite the experience the last day as my Newegg order from yesterday got canceled on the 7950 but just within the last hour I was able to order the 7900 x 3D directly from AMD.
And I actually found a couple of reviews that make it look quite favorable compared to the more expensive part so part of me is actually glad that it worked out this way as I'm definitely saving $100 for a mostly marginal difference in favor of the lower price part in some scenarios.
And more than anything I am just ready to get this bill done and resume my normal PC life.
As for me it's been quite the experience the last day as my Newegg order from yesterday got canceled on the 7950 but just within the last hour I was able to order the 7900 x 3D directly from AMD.
And I actually found a couple of reviews that make it look quite favorable compared to the more expensive part so part of me is actually glad that it worked out this way as I'm definitely saving $100 for a mostly marginal difference in favor of the lower price part in some scenarios.
And more than anything I am just ready to get this bill done and resume my normal PC life.
HeisenbergFX4
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So likely a dumb question but its silly above my pay grade so feel free to laugh at me for asking
So my son picked up a new 4090 PC prebuilt from some shop he lives near (his first real gaming PC) and he sent me pics and first thing I notice it only has 1 stick of RAM
I texted him back and he called the shop and they told him at 4k the one stick of 32 GB is fine and doesn't NEED dual channel
Its a stick of G Skill Trident Z5 6400
Is this right or should he get another stick?
So my son picked up a new 4090 PC prebuilt from some shop he lives near (his first real gaming PC) and he sent me pics and first thing I notice it only has 1 stick of RAM
I texted him back and he called the shop and they told him at 4k the one stick of 32 GB is fine and doesn't NEED dual channel
Its a stick of G Skill Trident Z5 6400
Is this right or should he get another stick?
hinch7
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I'd just get another stick. It'll be a waste for such a powerful system to be held back by RAM. Not found many tech people cover it but from the testings from this Youtuber (below), it makes a massive difference in select games. I suspect the 1% lows will be even more affected than the averages shown there.
winjer
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That has the memory bandwidth for the CPU.
If that was an office machine, for text and emails, it would not matter.
But for a gaming machine with a 4090, it's definitely going to limit performance. And minimum frame rates are going to be much worse.
It's always better to have a dual channel kit, and this has been true for over a decade now. That store is clearly trying to pull some shady dealings with their costumers.
No excuse for a machine that expensive to have a single channel memory kit.
HeisenbergFX4
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Thanks for the video
He says the system is flying as is and he may add another stick before Starfield arrives
Just found it odd they went that way instead of dual 16gb sticks
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Dural
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Anybody have killer wifi 6ax and have horrible speeds? I get a maximum of 90mbps on a wifi 6 network with 1gbps internet. If I plug my phone in to the PC and use it for wifi I get more than double the speed, my tablet gets 300-600mbps sitting at the couch in front of the PC. My son has a cheap wifi6 pcie adapter and gets 300mbps consistently. I've read about issues with the killer wifi 6 and tried all the solutions but still can't get the damn thing to go any faster. I'm about to the point of buying a different adapter for it.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
AHAHAH that case THAT CASEGot the 12600K as an open box from Amazon.
The SSD is cheap enough that I don't really care, not worth my time to remove it and send it back. I have a home server that I keep everything important on, this is just a PC for my wife and kids to use and me occasionally for some gaming.
And here are some pics, you can see the dent on the front from when my son pushed it off the table. Cables look like shit, but out of sight out of mind with the side panel on.
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winjer
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Some motherboards have an option that enables to flash the UEFI without a CPU. Most vendors call this "BIOS Flashback"
GreatnessRD
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Those who are in the hunt, AsRock 7900 XT for $799.
www.newegg.com
Makes that 12GB with the 4070 Ti look kinda shakey, imo. DLSS still the clear winner, however.
ASRock Phantom Gaming Radeon RX 7900 XT Video Card RX7900XT PG 20GO - Newegg.com
Buy ASRock Phantom Gaming Radeon RX 7900 XT 20GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 ATX Video Card RX7900XT PG 20GO with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!
Makes that 12GB with the 4070 Ti look kinda shakey, imo. DLSS still the clear winner, however.
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DownLikeBCPowder
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I'm thinking about finally getting a new monitor. I've been using the same one for about ten years - and it's only 720p. Before I had kind of a middle of the road GPU from whenever Diablo III came out and I mostly play much older PC games, so honestly I wasn't worried about getting 1080p. But I built a new PC last year and still got kind of a middle of the road GPU, a 1080ti, but I'm thinking now I should move to at least 1080p display and use this one for a second screen or something.
Any recommendations on a reliable (I like that this one has lasted so long, no problems) monitor for this purpose? I'm thinking the size I have now (26"), or a little bigger at most for this. Any factors I should consider on this?
Any recommendations on a reliable (I like that this one has lasted so long, no problems) monitor for this purpose? I'm thinking the size I have now (26"), or a little bigger at most for this. Any factors I should consider on this?
HeisenbergFX4
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What budget you looking at?
Honestly even for a 1080ti you could look at 1440p 144hz displays which LG makes a pretty decent one the GN800 for lIke $300 US
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Waiting for the CPU has made this build take the longest to out together. Maybe it's because I'm biding my time but being able to cable manage and have all the cables/PSU connectors in is great. Will be one of my better cable management jobs largely due to the 7000D case.
Getting the 7900x3d tomorrow and the last of the nvme drives (4tb Crucial). I've also got a proper GPU brace coming Friday and that may be it. I'll post some pics and specs when done.
Getting the 7900x3d tomorrow and the last of the nvme drives (4tb Crucial). I've also got a proper GPU brace coming Friday and that may be it. I'll post some pics and specs when done.
DownLikeBCPowder
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Not really sure what the range is these days, but in an ideal world maybe 200-400 USD but I don't really have one in stone, just what I'm mentally prepared to spend at this second. Not sure how realistic that is or not. I was thinking 1080p should just be the floor, but I'd probably be happy with only that if it was closer to my goal. Sounds like I could bump it up to be a bit better within that range. You think I should go up to the 1440 as opposed to sticking with 1080 as a goal?
HeisenbergFX4
Member
Just my 2 cents I think looking at 1440p monitors is ideal with how prices are
Here are some decent ones with different price ranges to look at if interested
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/by-resolution/1440p-quad-hd-qhd
DownLikeBCPowder
Member
Thanks for your input and helping point me in a direction! Appreciated!
hinch7
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Yeah makes the 4070 Ti look a little anemic in comparison. In you UK, you can also get the reference Sapphire model for £800 as well.Those who are in the hunt, AsRock 7900 XT for $799.
ASRock Phantom Gaming Radeon RX 7900 XT Video Card RX7900XT PG 20GO - Newegg.com
Buy ASRock Phantom Gaming Radeon RX 7900 XT 20GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 ATX Video Card RX7900XT PG 20GO with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!
Makes that 12GB with the 4070 Ti look kinda shakey, imo. DLSS still the clear winner, however.
The only thing holding me back from getting the XT/XTX is power consumption.. These RDNA 3 cards are such power hogs in comparision to Nvidia current offererings; in both Idle and gaming.
Erebus
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So my RTX 4070 Ti arrived today and I need a bit of advice with the power cables here.
The card came with a 3x8 pins adapter to what I believe is called 12VHPWR connector. The problem is that my PSU has attached 2 PCIE 6+2 cables but I believe you can add additional ones on the modular outputs. Currently I can’t locate the spare modular cables that came with the PSU so my question is do i need to have all three 8pin connectors of the adapter plugged in?
If yes, am I better off buying this cable or finding another 8pin one and using the adapter that came with the card?
The card came with a 3x8 pins adapter to what I believe is called 12VHPWR connector. The problem is that my PSU has attached 2 PCIE 6+2 cables but I believe you can add additional ones on the modular outputs. Currently I can’t locate the spare modular cables that came with the PSU so my question is do i need to have all three 8pin connectors of the adapter plugged in?
If yes, am I better off buying this cable or finding another 8pin one and using the adapter that came with the card?
KuraiShidosha
Member
Well good news. My 9:10 AM Amazon order for 7950x3D shipped yesterday. I guess that means if you ordered slightly after me but before they went out of stock yours might be shipping soon too. Can't wait to set this up and get to enjoying VR and ray tracing even better now.
TheBreezyBB
Member
Is 5600x going to be good to build now? And would it be good for 2 years?
I dont have time to play games these days, just need a new pc to do some voiceover and maybe just play POE from time to time.
I'm on a very limited budget and where i live the prices keep going up almost doubled now and I can't afford anything more than $500.
I dont have time to play games these days, just need a new pc to do some voiceover and maybe just play POE from time to time.
I'm on a very limited budget and where i live the prices keep going up almost doubled now and I can't afford anything more than $500.
MikeM
Member
I run a 5600 with a 7900xt. Its a great processor especially considering the price of am4 boards and ddr4 ram.
Sorry-Bluebird
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I have finally bit the bullet and am building my first PC. I decided to go with the 7900xtx which just arrived. However, I was listening to a podcast today and heard about potential issues with the vapor chamber on these units. I've done some additional research and can't figure out if the model I got could have this issue. For piece of mind does anyone know if I should be weary of the model linked below?
https://www.newegg.com/xfx-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-rx-79xmercb9/p/N82E16814150878?item=N82E16814150878
https://www.newegg.com/xfx-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-rx-79xmercb9/p/N82E16814150878?item=N82E16814150878
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Well, after one hiccup with the Windows 11 install (network not found but figured out a command SHIFT-F10 to fix a background process), I'm starting to migrate storage from my last remaining HDD (8TB) over to a combination of SSD and NVME storage. I'm finally out of the spinning platter storage ghetto! Final build specs......
Corsair 7000D
EVGA Supernova GOLD 1300w
Asus ROG Strix x670e Gaming-F Wifi
AMD R9 7900x3D
Arctic Liquid Freeze II 360mm AIO in push/pull (6 120mm fans) using Kryonaut thermal paste
Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090
32gb GSKILL Z5 Neo RGB CL32 6000mhz DDR5
500gb Samsung PCIe4 boot nvme
2x2tb PCIe4 980 Pro's
4tb Crucial PCIe3 nvme
2x2gb 970 Evo SSD in RAID
4tb 860 Evo SSD
Corsair 7000D
EVGA Supernova GOLD 1300w
Asus ROG Strix x670e Gaming-F Wifi
AMD R9 7900x3D
Arctic Liquid Freeze II 360mm AIO in push/pull (6 120mm fans) using Kryonaut thermal paste
Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090
32gb GSKILL Z5 Neo RGB CL32 6000mhz DDR5
500gb Samsung PCIe4 boot nvme
2x2tb PCIe4 980 Pro's
4tb Crucial PCIe3 nvme
2x2gb 970 Evo SSD in RAID
4tb 860 Evo SSD
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Celcius
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Whoa that's a lot of storage. What's your backup look like?
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I have a 50tb NAS basically.
MikeM
Member
GreatnessRD
Member
If I'm reading the compatibility list correct for your model, yes.
PSU CABLE COMPATIBILITY
GymWolf
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Guys, does the trick of switching the dlss version with a newer one work with titles that only have dlss 1.0 like monster hunter world?
I vaguely remember that this trick can only be used with games that already have at least dlss 2.0.
I'm not sure if a 4080 can handle 4k120 native with that game.
I vaguely remember that this trick can only be used with games that already have at least dlss 2.0.
I'm not sure if a 4080 can handle 4k120 native with that game.
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Sakura
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I'm having a hard time deciding between a 4080 and a 4090.
4090 is just so expensive, (I think cheapest is around 2200 CAD) so I kind of want to just get a 4080, but it's not like a 4080 is cheap either. Is it worth paying an extra 500 bucks for a 4090 over a 4080?
Also, how do I decide which manufacturer to get it from? They all kind of look the same. Is there any video that compares all versions of the 4090 (or 4080)? I tried searching on youtube, but I could only find videos comparing just a couple of them.
4090 is just so expensive, (I think cheapest is around 2200 CAD) so I kind of want to just get a 4080, but it's not like a 4080 is cheap either. Is it worth paying an extra 500 bucks for a 4090 over a 4080?
Also, how do I decide which manufacturer to get it from? They all kind of look the same. Is there any video that compares all versions of the 4090 (or 4080)? I tried searching on youtube, but I could only find videos comparing just a couple of them.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
If you're going to spend $1300 on a video card, you might as well spend $1600 and get a better card.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
Worth is hard to judge for others
Can you afford the extra cash without taking from some other budget?
For me it was totally worth spending the extra money to get the 4090 build ordered over the 4080 but in the same breath have a friend gaming on a 4070ti and is thrilled with it (though he came from a GTX1070)
Celcius
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Personally if you're going to buy a 4080 then I'd pay the extra for the 4090.
As far as which one to get, normally I buy evga but they're not an option anymore. Next I'd buy a founders edition but I never see them in stock. Third I'd go with gigabyte since I hear their cards don't have coil whine as much as other brands. Usually I like Asus but I hear their Strix cards have the worst coil whine this time around (plus they're charging a lot for the strix).
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GymWolf
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LiquidMetal14
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There you have it. Just mainly illustrating size. The mount on the CPU is very Batmobile-esque. Excellent performing case. Best temps I've ever had in any build and I haven't added extra fans. The old Corsair probably fits inside the 7000D.
intheinbetween
Member
Thanks for the pics, I am considering replacing my Lian Li Lancool Mesh II for a Corsair 7000D since the Artic Liquid Freezer II radiator doesn't fit properly anywhere, I tried on top and it clashed with the mb, so I had to place it at the front, however the front bezel can't be closed, so I'm looking for a case with more room
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I'm doing push/pull from the top too with room to spare. I've had that same issue you describe in the past and it's prevented me from doing this config. The last build I was able to do push/pull was my Intel 5930k build.
Plenty of room to spare and the build into the case fan controller still has 3 PWM slots free for more fans. I may cave in and add another 140mm to the front but they're expensive. Not that the 3 Artic fans weren't either (55USD for 3).
This has been the easiest case I put a build together. I would even say it was fun this time around. Plenty of space underneath/back for your PSU and 2 drive bays of which I removed 1 so it doesn't clash with the PSU cables. I used all 4 NVME board slots and the 3 SSD mounts before the motherboard so clean as reasonably cable managed.
nightmare-slain
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how do you like that AIO?There you have it. Just mainly illustrating size. The mount on the CPU is very Batmobile-esque. Excellent performing case. Best temps I've ever had in any build and I haven't added extra fans. The old Corsair probably fits inside the 7000D.
I've heard a lot of good things about it. don't really want to get an AIO but if I have to go Intel it looks like i have no option to.
is it loud? is it easy to control the fans/lights in Windows...what software do you use?
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Running it on the standard bios fan curve and the only time it's audible is when the temp got into the 80's during a Cinebench run. Super quiet. I hear the GPU and intake fans more. You can probably run silent mode as long as you're just browsing. The push/pull really helps. My old case was louder and I could feel the ambient heat coming from it when it was running.
Arctic Liquid Freeze II 360, recommended.
VAVA Mk2
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Wow 12 TB non boot all SSDs? Noice