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HBO Original | The Last of Us | Part 1 OT | Endure & Survive

Hobbygaming

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tmlDan said:
Man it was SO divisive, so many people thought Joel was crazy and selfish and should have let her bring the vaccine to humanity.

That discourse has changed over time but i remember how crazy the arguments were back then.
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Joel will always be a good guy in my eyes even knowing him and Tommy did some evil shit in the early outbreak days and the big choice he made
 
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Mercenary09

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Beastclaw Raider said:
Thank god we had strawberry picking and not a few more minutes in tonight's show.
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This is exactly my problem with this show. That third episode. We keep having things that would've been cool to see but no instead of getting to see them instead they thought it was more important to show two guys picking strawberries, fucking in bed, etc. Two side characters that no one is even going to remember because they have nothing to do with the rest of the series. I don't have a problem with having gay characters. I have a problem when for some reason the showrunners think they deserved more time than everything else
 
SlimySnake

SlimySnake

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Good but not as great as the game. Prett much the story of the show so far. It’s frustrating to see them copy pasta so much from the game but when it comes time to things that matter they change things up just a little bit but it kinda takes away from the impact.
 
Roni

Roni

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Good episode tonight, pretty much covered what I expected. They cut out all the infected from the story, but fair enough: it's pretty clear they're on a budget with this series.

Next week should be pretty good, considering it's the finale: they also seem to be cutting out most of Salt Lake and heading straight for the hospital. Hoping some of that HBO dragon money was saved so we can have some infected in the last episode. As I've said previously, I expect a 28 Days Later inspired ending for this...
 
Toons

Toons

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Madflavor said:
I feel like this show might be doomed once they adapt Part 2. Like it won't be cancelled or anything, but I can see viewership falling off. TLOU2 doesn't have as many high note moments as TLOU1, and it also lacks that mainstream appeal. It's going to be a metric ton of dialogue and slow scenes, half of which are going to be from characters that the audience will hate. This isn't going to be like Game of Thrones when Ned or Robb died, because you still had a lot of other great characters and storylines to follow.

Not to mention it's going to open up Pandora's Box again, and the culture wars surrounding Part 2 will be back in full swing. I'm not looking forward to it. I might actually not bother watching. I was hoping that the adaptation of Part 1 would be so good it would surpass the game, and then maybe I'd be interested in the idea of a better version of Part 2. But so far while I like the show a lot, it's not better than the game. One thing's for sure. In 2-3 year when Season 2 is out, it's going to be a hateful and miserable experience all around.
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Nah.

The tension between the two leads alone will keep people coming back. People will want to see retribution, they will be shocked and angry... and that will keep them watching and eventually they will be emotionally exhausted and unsure how it resolves.

It will basically be the experience the game had if you weren't spoiled the opening bits.
 
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Toons

Toons

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Dr.Morris79 said:
Couldnt agree more! Also loving the stunning and brave agendas it's pushing all across social media!

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Fuck this show, it went shit. It's got that Druckmman smell all over it :messenger_tears_of_joy:

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Casually admitting you want a 13 year old ellie to have big mommy milkers ain't the best look

Yes, she had a chest binder because she's playing a kid... wierdo.
 
HoodWinked

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its just straight up goofy that Pedro Pascal is playing the same exact role in two of the biggest tv shows currently. as an escort for a kid that he first dislikes but eventually becomes attached to.

how is the universe this cosmically unoriginal
 
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FireFistAce

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tmlDan said:
I disagree, it was exactly like the game without the dumb game bits of fighting people in a storm. I actually thought David was better here than in the game, more believable with his religious manipulation.

This was very well done.
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The villain using religious manipulation in a zombie apocalypse is so overdone. The walking dead did it and z nation did it. So it became more tropey and lacked the tension because we know what will happen.

And where was everyone else in that resort?
 
Gaelyon

Gaelyon

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I'm saying they trimmed the fat. They did it to develop characters, including minor ones. It's a TV show. It's drama. You won't see Joel searching for scissors and scotch every room and strangle 20 raiders then killing 15 infected between each morsel of dialogue. Different media, different approach to tell the same story.
 
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damidu

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loving it, bella was fire.
though this one could have used more airtime. maybe even 2 episodes.
where were all the town folks at the end , could have seen joel go through some of them at least.
 
Hugare

Hugare

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DForce said:
- It's an adaption that sticks closely to the original story.
- If I wanted the story from the game, then I'll play the game. lol.
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Choose one

I dont think that they've changed the story much. But TLOU is all about execution. The story is nothing special by itself.

The acting, the emotion in the scenes, the scene composition ...

My sister have never played the game and she is feeling Joel and Ellie's relationship rushed. There was not enough meat in the series to establish their relationship.

That was something hard to pull of, because of the limited runtime + not being able to develop characters through gameplay, but they failed. At least for my sister and me.

I dont think the series is bad. Its a decent adaptation. But its by far the worst way to experience the story.

Stuff like Joel not stopping Ellie at this last episode is just inexcusable, imo

And lord almighty, its nowhere near a 9.0 in terms of quality so far. House of the Dragon runs circles around this in terms of quality.
 
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Joshmyersbv

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Honestly for me the show is getting worse each episode. I don't understand why it was getting such high praise from critics. I agree with what some people in the thread are saying about the pacing, it's so inconsistent from one episode to the next. The thing is, I've seen shows that did just as well with critics that are WAY better.
 
DForce

DForce

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Hugare said:
Choose one

I dont think that they've changed the story much. But TLOU is all about execution. The story is nothing special by itself.

The acting, the emotion in the scenes, the scene composition ...

My sister have never played the game and she is feeling Joel and Ellie's relationship rushed. There was not enough meat in the series to establish their relationship.

That was something hard to pull of, because of the limited runtime + not being able to develop characters through gameplay, but they failed. At least for my sister and me.

I dont think the series is bad. Its a decent adaptation. But its by far the worst way to experience the story.

Stuff like Joel not stopping Ellie at this last episode is just inexcusable, imo
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There's nothing to choose from.

I said it sticks closely to the original story and that if I wanted the story from the game, then I would play the game.

This means I can accept changes that have been made due to budget, time constraints, or just preference. The way they changed the scene with Ellie and David doesn't bother me. I thought Bella's performance was great, and I don't mind Joel stopped Ellie outside instead of inside.

Some scenes are going to feel rushed, but as for their relationship, it's believable to me. If Ellie is making Joel laugh in episode 4, then I can put together in my head that in 3 months they would be even closer by episode 6.
 
ShadowNate

ShadowNate

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Good episode. Very tense at moments. Really good performance by Bella. And Pedro.

Again, ideally I would want more time spent with these characters and the new introduced ones. The preacher went kind of abruptly from "maybe he's a better leader than apocalypse kidergarden teacher" to
insane pedophile rapist
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Still good I suppose for the budget they had. Hopefully HBO will raise the budget and they'll be able to do more stuff and better in season two, in spite of the... thing.

I expect the podcast for this episode to be a fun one. I've yet to listen to it.
 
Eiknarf

Eiknarf

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How do you guys think Riley died in the previous episode?

Did Ellie shoot her when she changed? Or did Ellie leave her with the gun and Riley shot herself?
 
Portugeezer

Portugeezer

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My man just woke up from illness, barely moving, and already had to stab and torture dudes 🤣

Anyway, good episode, but I preferred the game version overall. Unfortunately the feeling of things being rushed is becoming more evident.
 
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Laieon

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Roni said:
Good episode tonight, pretty much covered what I expected. They cut out all the infected from the story, but fair enough: it's pretty clear they're on a budget with this series.
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They saved money on Season 1's infected and bricks budget so that they can have have the ratking in season 2.
 
hemo memo

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Portugeezer said:
My man just woke up from illness, barely moving, and already had to stab and torture dudes 🤣

Anyway, good episode, but I preferred the game version overall. Unfortunately the feeling of things being rushed is becoming more evident.
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Why did they cut the infected part? Budget?
 
Reizo Ryuu

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Complete dogshit episode.
This was by far the best part in the game for me and they completely gutted it; starting winter early was indeed a huge red flag, heck joel not picking up the bow earlier was as well; now dumbass ellie wants to go out hunting by herself with a rifle? Like gunshots wouldn't draw attention to her smh..
What the hell is it with this show, about a zombie apocalypse, trying it's damned hardest not to show any zombies? The entire encounter in the game was great and pretty tense.
This has just turned into another inter-personal human drama piece; you can almost completely cut out the zombies and nothing changes.
Also didn't buy david at all, the game's version had a kind of intensity that seems to be almost lost by this same old by the numbers 'religious cult leader' archetype.
The "baby girl" line also felt odd/unearned, because joel and ellie have had fuck all of on screen bonding time.
Only tiny good part here was joel torturing the dude.

This ep made the show go from average/decent but mostly boring, to complete trash.
 
saintjules

saintjules

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Good episode. Though I think most of the 1:1 adaptations that were happening in this episode felt like they were running out new ideas to deviate and just copy/paste just to get it done.


Slothbeing1209 said:
Just start watching this episode.
Lol Troy Bakers looks like David more than the show David.
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I was saying the same thing in my head last night. Wild.
 
Dr.Morris79

Dr.Morris79

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Reizo Ryuu said:
Complete dogshit episode.
This was by far the best part in the game for me and they completely gutted it; starting winter early was indeed a huge red flag, heck joel not picking up the bow earlier was as well; now dumbass ellie wants to go out hunting by herself with a rifle? Like gunshots wouldn't draw attention to her smh..
What the hell is it with this show, about a zombie apocalypse, trying it's damned hardest not to show any zombies? The entire encounter in the game was great and pretty tense.
This has just turned into another inter-personal human drama piece; you can almost completely cut out the zombies and nothing changes.
Also didn't buy david at all, the game's version had a kind of intensity that seems to be almost lost by this same old by the numbers 'religious cult leader' archetype.
The "baby girl" line also felt odd/unearned, because joel and ellie have had fuck all of on screen bonding time.
Only tiny good part here was joel torturing the dude.

This ep made the show go from average/decent but mostly boring, to complete trash.
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It's turned out to be a vehicle for agenda driven nonsense

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First episode was good, second was okay, from there on, agenda nonsense.

Even from those screen shots I put in my post above (The one where Toons quoted me thinking i want.. 13 year old kids to show breasts, somehow. Utterly missing the point..) is showing more agendas telling kids it's 'okay' to wear 'binders', oh and p.s, GAY is great..

Just agenda trash.

The whole things a piss take wrapped in 2023 nonsense.
 
killatopak

killatopak

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I really liked the episode. It's just a shame that I felt like the ending fell flat. The game was better by a mile. They seriously couldn't add a few more minutes to let Joel inside the obviously burning house?
 
SlimySnake

SlimySnake

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killatopak said:
I really liked the episode. It's just a shame that I felt like the ending fell flat. The game was better by a mile. They seriously couldn't add a few more minutes to let Joel inside the obviously burning house?
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They don’t get what made the game so special. That’s been obvious for a while now.
 
AJUMP23

AJUMP23

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This episode was an improvement from last week. Good Thing Joel heals right on time to kill some dudes. The Voice actor guy died so quickly.
 
begotten

begotten

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I finally got around to watching the episode AFTER skimming through this thread. I don't get the pacing complaints - is that the new buzz critique?

When I replay TLOU I usually dread this part of the game because it's too long. The deer hunt at the start. The area with the Bloater fight. Running around as Ellie with impaired vision. BORING.

Thought this episode did an awesome job of remixing this whole section and making it perfect length for television, whilst basically achieving the same outcome as the game.

Was surprised at how good David was, before the show started I thought he'd be the hardest to pull off.

Imagine an in-game model of the TV version with Nolans' voice. Would be genuinely scary.
 
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