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Excess weight, obesity more deadly than previously believed

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qwertz12345

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Wasn't it the case that 80% of all people that were hospitalized due to Covid were overweight and obese?

So basically... It was fat people that caused untold misery on other people - to the extent that the entire world had to shut down because of them.
 
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nush

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qwertz12345 said:
Wasn't it the case that 80% of all people that were hospitalized due to Covid were overweight and obese?
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No, it was probably the over 60's that needed more care. But it's recognized that obesity was putting people in an at risk group.
 
Tams

Tams

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SlimySnake said:
My BMI was 25.0, just above the normal BMI range which is 19-24.9. 25 put me in the overweight range which goes to 30 before it is considered Obese.

Even at 25.0 I felt like shit. I was tired, exhausted and extremely lazy. I am almost 21 now and feel much better. I think BMIs are doing everyone a disservice by saying 24-25 is normal and anything below 30 is just 'overweight'. It is dangerous just to have some excess weight even if it doesnt show in bloodwork.

Lets hope this study changes some minds. My doctor kept saying im fine. Doctors need to take excess weight more seriously.
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To be fair, unless you have a decent amount of muscle (a bit less if you are taller than average), you should take any BMI over 24 as time to take action.

You will know if you're a bodybuilder with a high BMI, or a serious endurance athlete with a low BMI. You can't miss that shit. If you are neither, then your BMI should be between 19 and 24.
 
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Kenpachii

Kenpachii

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U don't even need to measure yourself, just buy cloths when u are fit, if they no longer fits or get dangerous tight u lose weight. Simple as that.
 
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OZ9000

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SlimySnake said:
My BMI was 25.0, just above the normal BMI range which is 19-24.9. 25 put me in the overweight range which goes to 30 before it is considered Obese.

Even at 25.0 I felt like shit. I was tired, exhausted and extremely lazy. I am almost 21 now and feel much better. I think BMIs are doing everyone a disservice by saying 24-25 is normal and anything below 30 is just 'overweight'. It is dangerous just to have some excess weight even if it doesnt show in bloodwork.

Lets hope this study changes some minds. My doctor kept saying im fine. Doctors need to take excess weight more seriously.
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Our current fat promoting society would suggest otherwise you'll be labelled fatphobic.

I've got to love any legitimate criticism of any subgroup of people and you're labelled as a phobe.
 
JC 1080P CRT

JC 1080P CRT

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OZ9000 said:
Our current fat promoting society would suggest otherwise you'll be labelled fatphobic.

I've got to love any legitimate criticism of any subgroup of people and you're labelled as a phobe.
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I dislike that word so much. Not only is it a lazy dismissal of legitimate criticisms, as you've said, even the formation of the word itself is lazy. They could've gone the route of using Latin/Greek roots to construct something like "lipophobia" and the word would at least sound legitimate, but apparently basic linguistics itself is phobic.
 
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Lasha

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JC 1080P CRT said:
I dislike that word so much. Not only is it a lazy dismissal of legitimate criticisms, as you've said, even the formation of the word itself is lazy. They could've gone the route of using Latin/Greek roots to construct something like "lipophobia" and the word would at least sound legitimate, but apparently basic linguistics itself is phobic.
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Those same people consider grammar to be exclusionary which prohibits them from understanding the etymology of words.
 
Coconutt

Coconutt

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Janaschmieding GIF by WhoHaha
 
Badlucktroll

Badlucktroll

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I am not a person that eats like shit, chips, cheetos, oreos, sits down and orders fried appetizers, orders pizza, buys ben and jerrys, ect. my parents trained us to eat 3 squares of a lean protein (eggs, chicken, fish,) with a fruit or vegetable side, and snack on nuts, grains, fruit, yogurt, ect
 
JC 1080P CRT

JC 1080P CRT

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EviLore said:
Current stats for American adults (20 and over):

  • Men:
    Height in inches: 69.0 (5'9" / 175cm)
    Weight in pounds: 199.8 (90.6kg)
    Waist circumference in inches: 40.5
  • Women:
    Height in inches: 63.5 (5'3.5" / 161cm)
    Weight in pounds: 170.8 (77.5 kg)
    Waist circumference in inches: 38.7

FastStats

FastStats is an official application from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) and puts access to topic-specific statistics at your fingertips.
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov
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Super late with responding, but WHAAAAAAAAAAAT!?? (at the bold)
I thought it would've been something like 190 for men and 155 for women...

Also, nobody asked, but I apparently weigh around as much as the average American woman. I don't know how I should feel about that.
 
mxbison

mxbison

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Well yeah, don't see many obese people above age 60.

Not sure why it bothers people so much though, it's their life and their (self inflicted) problem not mine.
 
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Lasha

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mxbison said:
Well yeah, don't see many obese people above age 60.

Not sure why it bothers people so much though, it's their life and their (self inflicted) problem not mine.
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You pay for it indirectly through social taxes or insurance premiums.
 
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Lasha

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German Hops said:
We should all have equal access to equal healthcare.
Like the Canadians.
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That doesn't explain why you think charging higher rates on smokers and the obese is unfair. People need to pay for the cost of their poor choices somewhere. A higher insurance fee or tax is fairer than inflicting the cost of their care on everyone else through sugar/tobacco taxes.
 
Ballthyrm

Ballthyrm

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German Hops said:
We should all have equal access to equal healthcare.
Like the Canadians.
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With universal healthcare , you usually get taxes that go along with it.
So the fat people end up paying for their lifestyle anyways.

In France we tax sugar, certain oils , soft soda drinks, labelling laws on what inside everything you buy.
You get this graphic telling you exactly if what you are buying is good for you or not.

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Madonis

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There's a big difference between respecting people and being healthy.

I can respect individuals even when they have an unhealthy lifestyle or outright suffer from eating disorders.

It doesn't mean they shouldn't change, but I won't pressure them into doing so. Most of the time, they already know that.

If they want some help and advice, I'll give it to them. If not, then that's fine too.
 
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StreetsofBeige

StreetsofBeige

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Ballthyrm said:
With universal healthcare , you usually get taxes that go along with it.
So the fat people end up paying for their lifestyle anyways.

In France we tax sugar, certain oils , soft soda drinks, labelling laws on what inside everything you buy.
You get this graphic telling you exactly if what you are buying is good for you or not.

3cd4d011-7dca-4d55-ac0d-6b4f53b44a46.jpeg
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In Canada you dont get that. I think the only big taxes on stuff by the gov are booze, smokes and they seem to have a hand in controlling casinos. I dont think bad sugary or fatty food gets extra taxed at all. And if they do, it must be so low that it makes no difference because all the junk food you see always skews to dirt cheap dollar day sales.

I'm all for universal healthcare holistically, but not for stupidity. A guy being a total fat ass or 3 pack a day smoker needing hospital care shouldnt be getting free healthcare. That money, along with hospital beds and wait times is at the expense of people needing healthcare from freak accidents or out of the blue mother nature illnesses or cancer.

Two people can start with similar car insurance premiums. One guy gets accidents not his fault causing insurance companies to pay up (the other guy's fault). Another guy is a careless drunk and gets into car accidents every couple years (his fault). The careless guy gets his premiums jacked up. And that makes sense. It wouldnt make sense for both guys to have the same price till the day they die.
 
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