ValiantTraveler
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No, I still have a long way to go. I’m at the Smouldering Lake. I just had to scratch the itch to play Elden Ring again.
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Soodanim
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I revisited that recently and although there isn't much to it, there's a couple things you can bait the giant ballista into doing. Firstl is killing that electric worm by getting behind it, and second is shooting weak floor to open a shortcut into the lower area
DeaconOfTheDank
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ValiantTraveler
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Thanks for the tip! The floor was already destroyed when I found it, I guess I passed over it the first time without noticing it.
I’m done with the Smouldering Lake, got the Estus boosting items I wanted and a good bunch of titanite shards small and large. I tried to reach the area where the ballista is to deactivate it but one of the two hooded skeletons wrecked me, and this was after running away from the basilisks and killing the horned knight. I tried again but in vain, so I won’t bother anymore. I don’t think I’ll need to come back to the Lake anyways. But overall I ended up liking this area more than I thought I would at first.
I managed to beat the Old Demon King with the help of the Cuculus NPC, he made the fight so much easier. Reminded me of Elden Ring with the Spirit Ashes. I like how the Demon King ran out of fire after the big explosion, a boss lying powerless when it’s almost dead is rather unexpected.
I also beat the giant dog thing at the Irithyll bridge, from what I’ve seen on Google it’s called Sulyvahn’s Beast. Hope it doesn’t respawn cause that fight was really hard.
I want to advance Siegward’s quest but I haven’t found him in the well at the Cathedral of the Deep. I also haven’t met Patches either in the Cathedral, so he isn’t at the Firelink Shrine. Am I too late?
Maiden Voyage
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Did you open the big double doors across from Rosaria's chamber?
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Soodanim
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I always found Seigward's questline to be unintuitive at that part. Forcing you to decide to backtrack to search an innocuous place you have no reason to re-explore. I've never seen anything that suggests the player go to the well after getting the armour back.
I played a bit of DS1 again recently, and I got so much more than I should have because I've adapted to Elden Ring's delayed attacks. In DS1 if an enemy backswings, it's coming at you straight away, None of this Margit waiting 3 seconds behaviour.
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ValiantTraveler
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I’m almost done exploring Irythill of the Boreal Valley, but I haven’t gone to fight Pontiff Sulyvahn yet. I still need to open the shortcut to be able to reach him quickly. This is clearly the most beautiful area since the start of the game. Look at this kinght busy drooling at Gwynevere’s boobs 
I was gonna have a look at her tits myself when an archer shot me from behind! Wasn’t expecting this at all, I got scared.
I also advanced Siegward’s quest and met him in the kitchen. Looks like I need to pick up an item in the Irythill dungeon next. The watery area before the kitchen is an excellent farming spot, I easily get 7K souls killing the Bloobdorne-esque monsters with woman hair.
I have a question: to summon the NPCs before the boss (as shown in a YouTube guide), do I need to activate an Ember before teleporting to the closest bonfire? Or do the summoning marks on the ground appear as soon as I use an Ember?
I was gonna have a look at her tits myself when an archer shot me from behind! Wasn’t expecting this at all, I got scared.
I also advanced Siegward’s quest and met him in the kitchen. Looks like I need to pick up an item in the Irythill dungeon next. The watery area before the kitchen is an excellent farming spot, I easily get 7K souls killing the Bloobdorne-esque monsters with woman hair.
I have a question: to summon the NPCs before the boss (as shown in a YouTube guide), do I need to activate an Ember before teleporting to the closest bonfire? Or do the summoning marks on the ground appear as soon as I use an Ember?
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Maiden Voyage
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I believe as soon as you are embered.I’m almost done exploring Irythill of the Boreal Valley, but I haven’t gone to fight Pontiff Sulyvahn yet. I still need to open the shortcut to be able to reach him quickly. This is clearly the most beautiful area since the start of the game. Look at this kinght busy drooling at Gwynevere’s boobs
I was gonna have a look at her tits myself when an archer shot me from behind! Wasn’t expecting this at all, I got scared.
I also advanced Siegward’s quest and met him in the kitchen. Looks like I need to pick up an item in the Irythill dungeon next. The watery area before the kitchen is an excellent farming spot, I easily get 7K souls killing the Bloobdorne-esque monsters with woman hair.
I have a question: to summon the NPCs before the boss (as shown in a YouTube guide), do I need to activate an Ember before teleporting to the closest bonfire? Or do the summoning marks on the ground appear as soon as I use an Ember?
ValiantTraveler
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Happy 1st anniversary, Elden Ring!
ValiantTraveler
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Dark Souls 3 update: Pontiff Sulyvahn was kicking my ass so hard but I realized stamina is a key factor in this fight, so I went back and searched for the ring that boosts stamina recovery. Thank God for the YouTube videos that show you the path to take for any object. I found that ring but not before dying a bunch of times by falling from the elevator in the Undead Settlement. You’re supposed to roll as the elevator goes up or down to reach the area where you fight the fire demon with Siegward. Once again, being able to jump at will in Elden Ring is a HUGE improvement over Dark Souls.
I farmed souls for a while to level up stamina and went back to fight Pontiff Sulyvahn! And I beat him! Holy shit what a brutal boss. Hits fast and hard, has long combos, and summons a clone!! I had no flasks left, the stamina bar was empty, it was really a matter of who would strike first in the next two seconds. Luckily I was faster and killed him. Wow what a fight, the hardest so far. I shudder to think what the endgame bosses are going to be like...
I farmed souls for a while to level up stamina and went back to fight Pontiff Sulyvahn! And I beat him! Holy shit what a brutal boss. Hits fast and hard, has long combos, and summons a clone!! I had no flasks left, the stamina bar was empty, it was really a matter of who would strike first in the next two seconds. Luckily I was faster and killed him. Wow what a fight, the hardest so far. I shudder to think what the endgame bosses are going to be like...
NeverYouMind
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The late bosses of the base game are pretty much of the same intensity with the exception of the Nameless King, who is on a higher level. If you get to the DLC bosses, they will make those later bosses feel like a breeze.
ValiantTraveler
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IT’S HAPPENING!!
gaming_again
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Wait what wait is this real fr?IT’S HAPPENING!!
The Japanese Twitter says more info is coming!
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I think that's Miquella!!!IT’S HAPPENING!!
Fake
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Indeed. He is free from his cocoon lmao.
Maiden Voyage
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Why did they make that tree so sexyIT’S HAPPENING!!
Fake
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NeverYouMind
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I wonder what weapons and talismans this DLC will add? I hope they are not boring.
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ValiantTraveler
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Personally I wonder if you will need to reach a certain point in the game before accessing the DLC's content? Or will it be accessible regardless of whether you're in the early game, late-game, or NG+?
DelireMan7
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Could be. Or a young Marika. EDIT : Also the presence of a mount (Torrent ?) is interesting. When Melina gives it to us she mentions a "previous owner" (or maybe it's Ranni who mentioned it, or maybe both Melina and Ranni). Could this character (Miquella/Young Marika) be this previous owner ?
I am much more excited by this announce than I expected. I am really happy to jump into a new character for the DLC. Might go for Dex since it's the only one stats I haven't explore at least a bit. But still a lot of choice : Katana + Wakizashi, Bows focused, curved sword, Bolt of Gransax, Twinblade, etc...
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DelireMan7
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Regarding their history of DLC, I would say you'll need to reach a certain point in the game to access it.
I like their way to blend DLC access into their world. But if the art is significant and Miquella/young Marika is part of the DLC it could be time travel stuff so they could choose the "option from a Grace site" way.
I'm actually guessing it's St Trina but I could see a young Marika as well.
DelireMan7
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I have check the reddit and the hair comparison with Miquella's artwork from the game is matching so I guess it's Miquella.
Miquella is theorized to be St Trina (several hints in the game) so you're probably right
ikbalCO
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Worst thing about the new dlc is, you download the game again and your save is there and your character is there, you go to a random grace on the map with fewer graces, area that you mostly skip, you start playing and in 5 minutes you realise you forgot how to play this game and you get your shit beat out with your level 156 tarnished.
Best thing about the new dlc is, you download the game again and your save is there and your character is there, you go to a random grace on the map with fewer graces, area that you mostly skip, you start playing and in 10 minutes you remember how to play this game and now you cant stop playing it leaving hogwarts legacy in the backlog.
Best thing about the new dlc is, you download the game again and your save is there and your character is there, you go to a random grace on the map with fewer graces, area that you mostly skip, you start playing and in 10 minutes you remember how to play this game and now you cant stop playing it leaving hogwarts legacy in the backlog.
TheUsual
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I put this off for a few months after spending 80+ hours in it. Picked it back up again and pretty much at the end game.
Crumbling Farum Azula is completed and been off doing optional stuff.
Just beat Malenia this morning. Man, I can only imagine what it felt like facing her as one of the first set of players when there was little to no online strategies on how to deal with her.
Beat at around ~155 with a Mimic Tear who was dual wielding Meteoric Ore blade in left hand and Moonveil on the right while I one handed the Moonveil.
Pretty much stun-locked her. Took 5 tries though lol.
She got me with Scarlet Rot right before it was done so I was chugging flasks while listening to her dialog at the end.
Crumbling Farum Azula is completed and been off doing optional stuff.
Just beat Malenia this morning. Man, I can only imagine what it felt like facing her as one of the first set of players when there was little to no online strategies on how to deal with her.
Beat at around ~155 with a Mimic Tear who was dual wielding Meteoric Ore blade in left hand and Moonveil on the right while I one handed the Moonveil.
Pretty much stun-locked her. Took 5 tries though lol.
She got me with Scarlet Rot right before it was done so I was chugging flasks while listening to her dialog at the end.
gaming_again
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Your strength… extraordinary.
TheUsual
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More like cheesing her lol. Worth it.
First round with her she destroyed me quite quickly. After that, "I'm summoning my Mimic Tear immediately".
Props to the players who didn't use spirit ashes or summons and probably at a much lower level than me.
ValiantTraveler
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Your mimic tear... extraordinary.
I’ll never forget how stressed I felt while fighting Malenia. It’s just a video game but I was so intimidated and shaken, even as I was defeating her.
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NeverYouMind
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The annoying thing about the Milenia fight is every moment you allow her to strike at you without locking her into stun/status effect loops she regains health. So, the less aggressive you are the less likely you are to make it out alive.
Fake
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She is a pretty weak boss BTW. People love to hype her, but if you give life steal to every boss on Elden Ring they end up being more powerful than Milenia.
You can still play defensive, trowing poison knifes while she doing some animations. Other tip is max up the Black Knife companion, the death debuff do damage based of the enemy max hp.
Soodanim
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Tiche's effectiveness is solely down to how often she does her knockdown attack and the jumping beam. If she does it often, all is well. If she doesn't, she's useless. Still a fantastic summon to have though, especially against Elden Beast. Long range health bar sapping is almost purpose built for EB.
I don't think it's fair to say Malenia is weak as such, as she still has a fast, varied moveset that hits hard and covers a lot of ground. You can say any boss is weak if you have learned their moveset and how to avoid/punish it, because the game has to be winnable. A no hit run makes every boss look weak, but that isn't the point. Godrick with lifesteal wouldn't be any more trouble than he is now. But I do agree that the lifesteal is the major obstacle. Or, to be specific, how lifesteal works is the obstacle. If a100% physical block shield didn't still lead to Malenia healing, it wouldn't be half as much of a problem. You could play defensively, and the rules of the game being winnable by a variety of play styles would still be true. Malenia is hard because she breaks the rules for forces you to play a certain way or cheese her weaknesses.
Fake
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Well, I find Malenia weak because she have a high pain chance.
Do you notice you sometimes can pain lock her the entire phase 1?
Most of the nerfs Eldrn Ring got in the first patch are for both pvp and Malenia fight.
Is just the life steal that make her powerful... or make your mistake pretty annoying.
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ValiantTraveler
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Dark Souls 3 update: I finished the Irithyll dungeon and Profane Capital. I was hoping I would finish the dungeon without dying once but the jailers near the exit got me. However I did manage to complete the Profane Capital without dying, but then again it's a surprisingly small area.
I also finished Siegward's quest and man, what a great character. Probably my favorite NPC along with the Firekeeper (hehe). I LOVED his entrance in the cutscene that reveals Yhorm. I was worried Siegward would die, but Yhorm turned out to be super easy since I used the Storm Ruler. I was looking forward to this fight since starting the game and was a little disappointed by how quickly it ended. If only there was a boss rush mode, I'd love to fight him again. Rykard's fight is an improvement over this one I feel, in the sense that even if you use the powerful weapon made available, Rykard can still be quite challenging.
I also finished Siegward's quest and man, what a great character. Probably my favorite NPC along with the Firekeeper (hehe). I LOVED his entrance in the cutscene that reveals Yhorm. I was worried Siegward would die, but Yhorm turned out to be super easy since I used the Storm Ruler. I was looking forward to this fight since starting the game and was a little disappointed by how quickly it ended. If only there was a boss rush mode, I'd love to fight him again. Rykard's fight is an improvement over this one I feel, in the sense that even if you use the powerful weapon made available, Rykard can still be quite challenging.
Soodanim
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The dungeon jailers are such a pain. Annoying gimmick enemies that aren't so much skill as learning locations so that you can either rush down or run past. I usually opt to run past, their ability to negate any build on sight isn't very fun to me.
Rykard manages to be both a gimmick boss and a real boss with unique attacks, the latter being something Yhorm lacked. It's nice that you got Siegward there, I didn't on my first playthrough but it adds a little something to the fight. Rykard can be stunlocked, but it's still a lot more difficult than Yhorm or other Souls gimmick bosses. Demon's' was good (4's not 2's), DS1's was god-awful and possible the worst boss in the entire From library.
DelireMan7
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Hum... Did you went back into the room after speaking to Siegward ?
Yhorm is the famous gimmick "Stormruler" fight present in several From's game. The music is fantastic ! But yes Rykard is the top of "Stormruler" fight.
So I am done with my Hollow Knight replay (confirms it's high up on my "best games ever" alongside Dark Souls and Bloodborne) and I am really hyped up for another Elden Ring playthrough since the DLC announcement ! So here I am back to Elden Ring !
I'll go for a Dex build. Probably Katana/Wakizashi dual wielding (most probably with poison and parry skill). I'll probably use a bow too. I wanted to test at some point a bow focused build but bows don't look really sexy in this game (I wish there was more Ash of war for them). My thinking about adding some "pyromancy" incantation to the build or going for a Dex/Faith for some "holy" incantation. I might for for fire this time and make later a focused "holy" character (it's always one of my favorite archetype in Souls).
About Malenia's discussion:
The lifesteal never bothered me. I think it's well tuned.
The real bullshit about her (making the fight insufferable for me) is a stun/poise break point which is really inconsistent and most importantly : her fucking Waterfowl attack. For me it's really "Ho look a one shot attack that doesn't follow the "standard rules" of dodging just to make my boss really hard". Removes this attack and it becomes a tense and interesting fight. In the current state, it makes this fight frustrating. I never had the "satisfaction" feeling when I beat her because of that.
Finally getting off my ass and trying to beat this game. I think I’m close to the end.
Had a question regarding New Game + and DLC. If I beat the game, will it automatically reload from the beginning at new game plus and will I lose access to my completed world map? Would that mean I’d have to play any DLC at a harder New Game + difficulty?
Had a question regarding New Game + and DLC. If I beat the game, will it automatically reload from the beginning at new game plus and will I lose access to my completed world map? Would that mean I’d have to play any DLC at a harder New Game + difficulty?
Maiden Voyage
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When you beat the game you choose when/if to go NG+. Location names/icons transfer but not sites of grace. That means you’ll see everything you found in the first go but won’t be able to fast travel until you rediscover the sites of grace.
Not sure yet about how DLC will work since it’s not close to release.