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Ace Combat 7: Skies Unknown |OT| Yo, buddy...still alive?
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mcz117chief
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In my most humble opinion it plays a lot better than the Ace Combat 6 multiplayer. I would put it at number three behind Infinity and Assault Horizon but above 0 and 6 so it is sitting pretty in the middle right now. All they have to do is add all the content from Infinity and we are all set, baby! The fact is, that the entire UI of the multiplayer is lifted almost unchanged from Infinity. Aside from the lack of content and some minor adjustments it is pretty much the exact same thing, they even left all the PvE chat options in the game which serve almost no purpose in PvP like "delay the final attack" which is one of the most, if not THE most used chat option in Infinity.
LuvOfThaGame
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DLC teaser
Dice
Member
This game is trying really hard to stop me from enjoying it. Astoundingly boring angsty narratives from this girl, a war proceeding without any media clips, you're a nobody so you have no character to relate to, then you're made out to be a criminal so everyone just hates you and talks shit and the missions limit your abilities... Like wow, real good job letting me get into what makes these games cool...
So I'm starting Mission 6 now, how many more missions do I have to skip the story and talking on before everyone stops being an asshole and I can give a shit? As it is, I'm starting to feel sympathetic toward the enemy.
So I'm starting Mission 6 now, how many more missions do I have to skip the story and talking on before everyone stops being an asshole and I can give a shit? As it is, I'm starting to feel sympathetic toward the enemy.
Shifty
Member
Picked this up today, my first experience with the series. I think I spent more time writing code in Thrustmaster TARGET and fighting Big Picture than I did playing 
It was worth it though. Now I have a smooth, deadzone free setup for my HOTAS with as much analog mapping as I can get out of the game.
Seems good so far, though there's clearly a learning curve with the various aerial maneuvers, keeping track of your weapon loading, proper target prioritization and so on. I'm still scrub-tier, but enjoying it.
I love the presentation so far too, the degree of drama and reverence for aviation is making it feel like playable Top Gun.
It was worth it though. Now I have a smooth, deadzone free setup for my HOTAS with as much analog mapping as I can get out of the game.
Seems good so far, though there's clearly a learning curve with the various aerial maneuvers, keeping track of your weapon loading, proper target prioritization and so on. I'm still scrub-tier, but enjoying it.
I love the presentation so far too, the degree of drama and reverence for aviation is making it feel like playable Top Gun.
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mcz117chief
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I totally get what you are saying. That is why I haven't even finished the game yet despite finishing Ace Combat 5 almost twice already (since release of 7 I mean). If you are playing on PS4, please play Ace Combat 5 and tell me how it compares. I am sure you will enjoy it much more than 7.
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IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
Shifty
Member
Gave up while doing the secret planes, somewhere around the mission with target IDing I think. Some of those spawn conditions are downright mean, and the fact that they get reset when you die and continue is some hot bullshit. This particular set of challenges does not respect the player's time.
Really enjoyed the rest of my time with the game though- glad to have finally gotten into the series, so 4, 5 and 0 are on my 'to play' list.
Also remember that the 'schwing' noise means stonehenge is about to get hit, not that it just took a hit, so if you're chasing down the last bomber in a formation you can still destroy it before failing the spawn condition.
Really enjoyed the rest of my time with the game though- glad to have finally gotten into the series, so 4, 5 and 0 are on my 'to play' list.
Prioritize enemy bombers first, then ground troops, then aerial attack craft. Bring something fast with 8AAMs to trivialize killing the bombers, and make sure to clear entire groups of ground troops at once. The friendly units will keep them at bay while you're dealing with aerial targets, but will still dwindle even if there are only a couple of enemy units left in a squad.
Also remember that the 'schwing' noise means stonehenge is about to get hit, not that it just took a hit, so if you're chasing down the last bomber in a formation you can still destroy it before failing the spawn condition.
Shifty
Member
Yeah, it can be pretty tight. How far into the aircraft tree are you? I found things got a bit easier on my second go around with the better hardware.ThanksShifty Maybe this is the most bullshit requirement from the entire Ace Combat 7. I think you have just to act like a suicidal to get this done. Almost requiring perfection in the execution..
I will say one thing for the challenge planes though, I would never have dedicated the time to doing the mission 14 canyon run at max speed in a MiG-21 bis without them. That's a wild ride
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Barnabot
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Yeah, it can be pretty tight. How far into the aircraft tree are you? I found things got a bit easier on my second go around with the better hardware.
I will say one thing for the challenge planes though, I would never have dedicated the time to doing the mission 14 canyon run at max speed in a MiG-21 bis without them. That's a wild ride
I got most of the super planes. And still failed with a F-35. I've bombed everything I could and tried to take down as many bombers as I could but in the end 1 SOAB still managed to hit the Stonehenge. Damn.
The mission 14 I've managed with F-15 E in my first campaign run. Of course I've crashed almost in the end in the first try.
IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
mcz117chief
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That's good or bad? I can't even begin to imagine how much money Infinity made them, some of the whales in that game were ridiculous so I'm sure they are doing fine financially.
The Wise Old Man
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Hi there folks, just chiming in here to say that I’m absolutely loving this game.
Dogfighting online is delightful. The graphics are great. The planes all look incredible. It has a weird Metal Gear style story which is fun. The thing the music does where it gets washed out when you fly through the clouds is a brilliant touch.
Question: is anyone else playing on an Xbox who didn’t get a code for their ace combat 5 download? (I didn’t and was wondering what’s up).
Dogfighting online is delightful. The graphics are great. The planes all look incredible. It has a weird Metal Gear style story which is fun. The thing the music does where it gets washed out when you fly through the clouds is a brilliant touch.
Question: is anyone else playing on an Xbox who didn’t get a code for their ace combat 5 download? (I didn’t and was wondering what’s up).
Barnabot
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The Wise Old Man
I'm not a Xbox one player. PC player here. But I think Xbox one players are not entitled to a digital copy of AC5 because f%ck Xbox and pc players? Or maybe something about Sony's exclusivity on AC5 or something else or I don't know. I just know that no AC5 to anyone other than the PS4 owners.
Caayn
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XB1 players get AC6, PS4 players get AC5. If they pre-ordered, got a code from a store or bought a (deluxe) launch edition before 18-02-2018. PC players get nothing, not even AC:AH.
I also have yet to receive my AC6 code.
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mcz117chief
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I wonder if Ace Combat 6 will eventually be available on PS4...
Caayn
Member
It'd be pretty cool to get AC5 on Xbox and AC6 on PS. But I doubt that we'll see that anytime soon.
The release of AC7 was the perfect timing to do a "Play AC5/6 for the first time ever on PS/Xbox" kind of deal. As an extra pre-order bonus or an additional extra for the deluxe edition for example. I also wouldn't be surprised if AC5 and 6 are legally tied to their respective platforms.
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mcz117chief
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I'm pretty sure you can play AC6 on xbox one with backwards compatibility, can't you?
Barnabot
Member
Yes, you can go and dance with the angels.
The Wise Old Man
Member
So is the reason I can’t download it now despite paying for the launch edition of AC7 because Project Aces is hard at work optimizing AC6? (Say yes damnit).
Barnabot
Member
I don't know. All I know is that they take quite some time to develop a new Ace Combat game. Bamco should support Project Aces even more imo.
Barnabot
Member
Su-34 or F-15 E witho those cluster bombs should do the trick, right?Still stuck on Mission 6 Hard mode after 2 weeks. I've gotten to 19k but not quite 20k.
I'll get it one day
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
I been using muh thunderbolt with that big ass generic bomb. But yea maybe I should try somethin else.
mcz117chief
Member
Like in every AC game, pick cluster bomb, fly really high and blanket the entire map. Easy game, easy life.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
I didn't have enough money to get a plane with those bombs. Not gonna farm money either or restart on Normal. Today, after what must have been cumulative attempt 20, I finally got it! Used the Thunderbolt and its regular bomb that you have to do everything manually.
The next couple missions, the stormy canyon and the desert pipeline, were absolute cake walks in comparison. They have actual checkpoints too unlike mission 6. Glad to be makin progress again, upgraded from the Danger Zone F14 to the Super Hornet.
Pimpbaa
Member
The series really needs a single player mode where you can make custom scenarios. Like pick which planes you want to fight, what area and weather. So you can just jump in and do some quick combat without cutscenes and in flight dialog. Not that there is anything wrong with the single player campaign, but hearing the same dialog over and over is maddening when all you want to do is fight and get some money. I mean that shit was standard on pc flight sims for ages, I just wish this series had it too (especially since games like this are so rare these days).
Pagusas
Elden Member
Still stuck on Mission 6 Hard mode after 2 weeks. I've gotten to 19k but not quite 20k.
I'll get it one day
The A-10 makes that mission a cake walk. Seriously it’s like cheat mode.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
I must suck then cuz thats the plane I was using and struggling with. The 15 minute timer combined with the 20k score requirement was quite the hurdle for me.
Pagusas
Elden Member
Use the air to ground missels (the multi target ones) hit the air base first, be quick and use everything on it, than quickly resupply, hit the base in the mountains, use everything you got on it, resupply, hit the last base. You’ll hit 20k with a good 2-3 minutes to spare. Never let off the throttle.
mcz117chief
Member
I managed that mission without resupplying once and destroyed almost all the targets on first try. You guys need to use guns more.
Pagusas
Elden Member
He’s having trouble, I’m giving him the easiest way to do the missions. If he was good he could easily handle the mission on the first try, he obviously needs help with the game.
mcz117chief
Member
Using guns more and becoming more proficient with it is good advice. You are literally ignoring 1/3 of your arsenal if you don't use guns. You can use them in so many creative ways. Set up strafing runs to hit many targets at once while also firing missiles at targets around your strafing path. That way you can engage more targets and faster that if you were just using missiles or specials.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Were you playing on Hard? I did not have time to resupply. Had to do the mission all in one go and finished with under 30 seconds left lol. I'm eager to see how I perform on whenever the next Annihilation mission is.
I love using my gun. It was especially useful in the desert pipeline mission where you can spam that shit.
mcz117chief
Member
Yeah, gun is essential especially in air-to-ground. Mastering guns in air-to-air requires a ton of practice and unless you are doing gun-only run it isn't really worth it to chase planes in hope of scoring that gun kill. If you see an easy target (helicopter, slow flying plane, etc.) use guns to save ammo but in dog-fighting it is usually not worth the trouble.
A.Romero
Member
I think it's possible. Is there any info about the DLC? Given that the VR section has Moebius (sp?) as the pilot, I can see other DLC pieces be about Mr. X.
Barnabot
Member
I didn't know that VR had Moebius One. That's cool. But about the DLC I guess Bamco wanted to release this game and wait it for to die. I remember that the season pass had only offered a music player. I didn't buy it because of that. And as far I know we don't have any other news about these DLCs
A.Romero
Member
Wow, I didn't know that.
I thought the DLC teaser that was posted here: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/ace-...t-yo-buddy-still-alive.1471228/post-253774007 was meant to promote something different...