PS4's software sales are poor all over the globe.
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Media Create Sales: Week 13, 2014 (Mar 24 - Mar 30)
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PS4's software sales are poor all over the globe.
Hellraider
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They are?
What ?
Speak of talking out of your behind
Sammy Samusu
Member
Level-5 better be stockpiling for the Golden Week.
I'm not ready.
I'm not ready.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Whats with all this tax hike talk. Maybe it lead to a small increase but I was thinking the 3DS bump was due to 4 new editions this week ( or 3 can't remember). Vita was possibly for Miku.
Also the PS4 descent begins.
Also the PS4 descent begins.
This PS4 doom and gloom is getting really old.
The system will pick up steam once the library gets better. Japan doesn't buy hardware on the promise of future good games.
People who are even entertaining the idea that the Wii U will be more successful than the PS4 in the long run are delusional. The Wii U had a better start than the PS4 because it had a better launch lineup, and that's all there is to it. Once the Japanese industry starts moving away from the PS3, they will go to the PS4, not the Wii U.
The system will pick up steam once the library gets better. Japan doesn't buy hardware on the promise of future good games.
People who are even entertaining the idea that the Wii U will be more successful than the PS4 in the long run are delusional. The Wii U had a better start than the PS4 because it had a better launch lineup, and that's all there is to it. Once the Japanese industry starts moving away from the PS3, they will go to the PS4, not the Wii U.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Lol people think the WiiU's LTD is going to be higher than the PS3's. Wow now thats funny.
The question is when are these big releases going to come. 2015 is a possibility with MGSV and FFXV but Japan hasn't really shown much of what they are doing on PS4 if they even are doing anything.
I guess we will see what they are doing as the year progresses.
FullMetaltech
Member
Probably see a bump when FF14 drops soon. Thats probably the only game that would appeal to the Japanese market for this month. Hopefully we get to see a better catalogue at E3.
how so? I honestly think it could go either way at this point and I don't think that's too crazy
Based on what, sir?
djplaeskool
Member
Waifu brigade will bring their wallets in force.
Based on what is already happening? All non-Nintendo next-gen Japanese games we know about so far are announced for the PS4 and/or Xbox One. Final Fantasy XV, Kingdom Hearts 4, Metal Gear Solid V, Deep Down, Lily Bergamo, etc.
The Wii U has next to zero upcoming third party games.
Look, I'm not one of the people you refer to, but dude, is it really such a delusional thought when the Wii-U is significantly cheaper, has backward compatibility benefits, and has the classic Nintendo first-party games? PS4 has its own weapons in this fight, and I know Wii-U's numbers stink, but the factors I named at least leave the possibility of a bounceback to happen at some point.
After all... "It's a marathon, not a sprint."
Anyway, again, I'm not making that prediction myself, but if someone else does, they're hardly "delusional."
The line of thinking is wrong because it assumes that developers need to move from consoles to consoles. That will happen for the big releases, but for most of the, they might as well go to vita or 3ds, two platforms much healthier.
I never thought this, but i think people that did though the ps4 would sell better than the ps3 in the end because of no competition (lol) might be in for a rude awakening.
The "since its a success in the West, there will be games for it and it might turn the table like vita" is not wrong, the problemas is vita releases were made by japanese studios and ports of the ps3. People had the choice were to buy, a console or a portable and vita ended up stealing a little of ps3 thunder and growing. With the ps4 is hard to do same just on the western games Aline. These days they are much well received, but apart from a couple of releases, its still a niche.
Also, ps4 situation right now is bad, but i dont think its fair to compare to the wiiu or ps3 right now. If you compare to the wiiu release, i think ps4 might even have more games. Lol
Also, antibolo, if you are going to considerado stuff like deep down and Lili Bérgamo as huge for the ps4, i guess wiiu third party support is actually pretty good.
I never thought this, but i think people that did though the ps4 would sell better than the ps3 in the end because of no competition (lol) might be in for a rude awakening.
The "since its a success in the West, there will be games for it and it might turn the table like vita" is not wrong, the problemas is vita releases were made by japanese studios and ports of the ps3. People had the choice were to buy, a console or a portable and vita ended up stealing a little of ps3 thunder and growing. With the ps4 is hard to do same just on the western games Aline. These days they are much well received, but apart from a couple of releases, its still a niche.
Also, ps4 situation right now is bad, but i dont think its fair to compare to the wiiu or ps3 right now. If you compare to the wiiu release, i think ps4 might even have more games. Lol
Also, antibolo, if you are going to considerado stuff like deep down and Lili Bérgamo as huge for the ps4, i guess wiiu third party support is actually pretty good.
GribbleGrunger
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What?
SwiftDeath
Member
Huh wonder if PS4 will hit sub 20K next week
Vita doing well relatively although it does benefit from quite a few releases
Vita doing well relatively although it does benefit from quite a few releases
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
You really think the WiiU is going to have a higher LTD than the PS4. Just wait.
Based on the fact the PS4 is getting the games the Ps3 crowd drew towards. The middle tier games are absent for now however.
There was certainly a sar chasm but I wasn't the one I fell into it.
the quote was "I honestly think it could go either way at this point". reading comprehension, huh?
LordOcidax
Member
Are you underestimating the power of MK8 in Japan? or Smash? Bayonetta? X?
I dont think wiiu is going to have a higher Ltd than the ps4, but i also dont think the ps4 to be higher than the ps3 either, unless this generation last for a long while.
Some companies are pretty reluctant to start supporting the ps4 and it still mantains their support for the ps3. Now with vita, where port is much easier and the game is esswntially the same (where they would have to do a downport cobsidering the ps4) i expect this situation to hold for a while.
Some companies are pretty reluctant to start supporting the ps4 and it still mantains their support for the ps3. Now with vita, where port is much easier and the game is esswntially the same (where they would have to do a downport cobsidering the ps4) i expect this situation to hold for a while.
Bayonetta won't make a dent. Smash and MK8 will have an effect but there's no way to tell how significant it will be. X is a wild card.
theprodigy
Member
It would certainly be ironic if Vita took away PS4 support from Japanese developers....
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
And how would that attract PS£ userbase.
Had to make sure. Not everyday do we see such a crazy prediction.
SwiftDeath
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Third parties are infinitely more important to console sales that Nintendo's first party alone but...the games you've talked about? Lily Bergamo and Deep Down may as well be Wii Fit U and Wonderful 101, they won't move units (DD is F2P and Lily Bergamo is Suda51.)
The other 3 games are good sellers, and there will inevitably be at least 1 other big name in the form of Resi Evil, but those 3rd party games alone? Honestly the Wii U's first party output is looking just as fruitful. That is to say not much at all.
My point is that citing 3-4 games and saying "lol third parties" means nothing, because those games on their own won't carry a console, in the same way that Mario and Smash won't carry the Wii U. I'd bet on the PS4 overtaking the Wii U in JP in 2016, but honestly I don't think it's all that crazy to say it won't ever. To say it's not possible just basically shows that you're pushing an agenda.
You and basically 1 other person are the only ones who seem to think that idea is "crazy."
Turkishflavor
Banned
MK8. This will boost Wii U sales. Like a lot.
Western stuff are not the "right games" even if GTA sells quite good and CoD, BF, Uncharted / TLOU sells decently. Resident Evil, Final Fantasy, MGS and KH sell nicely both in Japan and the West so they'll be on PS4, but they'll need more software if they want to sell decently. The sooner they get more mid (and low) tier Japanese games the better. Even if they're multiplatform titles. Most Vita line-up are multis and it's not selling that bad. Give people reasons to shelve their PS3 and buy its succesor.
Maybe you're overstimating the power of Bayonetta 2 and X. The original sold iirc less than 300k copies and Xenoblade Chronicles was around 200k too.
Lily Bergamo is probably going to bomb though, seeing developer track record.
You missed my point. Most of these games are irrelevant when considered individually. However they show that the industry is moving on the PS4. Slowly, but surely.
Pretty nice hardware bumps to everyone, including Wii U and doesn't even had a game retail release this week! I read that it was because of the Sales Tax increase in Japan that started yesterday, so people took the chance to buy game consoles before the tax increase. Hope that doesn't affect very dramatically the hardware numbers next week. PS4... sad numbers for a relatively brand new console there : /
PS4 will continue to drop. It's going to be at or below 10k a week here soon and will probably sit around that for the next several months. There just isn't anything coming soon for it that will help that much. FF XIV will some but with it being out on other systems I just don't see it moving too many units. It's sad we have to look at 2015 before anything will remotely come out over there that might help.
I'd be responsible for 13K out of those 31K sales then
theprodigy
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The Horror the horror
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Those games will sell hardware and they'll add to the Wii U's pretty impressive catalog of games, at least relative to that of its competitors at the moment.
My concern is that Nintendo won't follow up on whatever momentum those games create. One of Nintendo's problems isn't the lack of heavy hitters, because they've got them, it's the lack of proper follow-through. From the release of MK8 and on, they need to keep rolling out game after game, non-stop until the end of Wii U's cycle. Not necessarily AAA titles like Zelda, Smash, or Kart, but a new B-tier title every 3 months at the latest. If they can do that and keep doing that until Wii U's successor is released, sales be damned, I'd consider Wii U a great console all and all.
Immaculate
Banned
yeah a best version needs to happen soon
Oh you
prag16
Banned
This. Wii U already has a 1.2 million unit lead LTD. PS4 will chip away at that for the next several weeks, but then Kart will drop and that lead will then return to growth. Wii U also has a great chance of beating PS4 holiday 2014 as well (the usual Nintendo bump and smash, plus probably SM3DW and/or Kart bundurus).
Could PS4 make that ground back and and surpass the Wii U in 2016 or 2017? Absolutely. Is it "insane/crazy/delusional" to predict it won't be able to? Not at all.
makingmusic476
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If Sony were smart, they'd throw some money at Konami to nix or delay the ps3 version of TPP in Japan.
If Konami were smart, they'd refuse that money.
I think it'd be on June.
It'll be like 3+ months away from the G version and they could benefit for the summer drought.
KillerMan91
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Not to mention that western games are getting bigger and bigger in Japan and PS4 will get those exclusively. Just look at GTA. Selling more than some of Japanese heavy hitters like FF spin offs or Tales of series.