mckmas8808
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The Last of Us 2 sold around 14 million copies. Why act as if it was a bomba?
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The Last of Us 2 sold around 14 million copies. Why act as if it was a bomba?
RJMacready73
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It doesn't work, the only way it could work is if you say it needs to be concentrated levels in areas where there is little to no wind to disperse them so they lie heavy in the air in basements or deep inside buildings and even then you have to establish that breathing in spores out in the open isn't harmful, it's completely unnecessary imo
Coulomb_Barrier
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Unlucky as shows stream in what looks like 1080p here on NOWTV (Raised by Wolves is the last series I watched on there).
If its 720p looking for such a big show I will be pissed off.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Peoples allergies go into crazy mode when invisible pollen indexes are high, a damned spore pollen spewing disease, and everyone and their mother would be gas masking 24/7 in a world without proper infrastructure and ventilation systems.
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ZehDon
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Last confirmed numbers from Sony I saw were 10+ million. Can I have the source for the updated 14 million figure?
RJMacready73
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Like I said it's a great videogame mechanic but for a TV show going for realism it's a bit daft
Secret of Evolution
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Reading comprehension is hard. Abby’s guns are not a character in the game.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
And who would want to watch a show where every character has on a mask? We went through that in real-life for 2 years and it sucked!
ND said it themselves.
Reflecting on a Big Year to Come for The Last of Us || Naughty Dog
Ahead of a milestone year for The Last of Us, Naughty Dog’s Neil Druckmann speaks to the franchise’s 10th anniversary.
www.naughtydog.com
sendit
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manfestival
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One other thing I just thought of. They better nail that beginning of Last of Us. EVERYONE better be in tears in the first 30 minutes like the first game.
TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
I'm supes excited. Going to a premiere event where they're going to project the first episode on Ramsey's forehead.
Nah, I give ND and ND a hard time, but with budget, and experts in tow, i think the show has a lot of potential.
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ZehDon
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Doesn't look like they mentioned TLOU2 selling 14 million anywhere? Wrong link?
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Gamerguy84
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Damn I never buy into these things but I'm very interested in this now. I'm also
getting ready to start Jack Ryan season 3.
getting ready to start Jack Ryan season 3.
GymWolf
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When you watch something semi-realistic like tlou, a certain degree of suspension of disbilief is needed.
I'm pretty sure that tlou fans and really the majority of not-nitpickers would have been ok with my explanation that keeps a beloved element of the lore while still having a certain degree of logic, it is about compromises dude.
But you are right, we should maintain everything super realistic in a videogame adaptation, it's not like mushroom zombies fucking up the world are something you can't normally see during your average weekend and that doesn't require any suspension of disbilief to begin with.
Oh and btw, i guess that millions and millions of people who never had a single problem plot wise with the spores in the games are just morons...it's not like nerds in vg forums dissect plots even more obsessively than your average serial tv watcher
Strange how belieavable spores are is NEVER a point of discussion in any fucking discussion i ever read about the brand...
P.s. it is not a perfect solution dude, we both agree, but it could have been the lesser evil to maintain a beloved element of the series, like i said i don't give too much fucks about it, i'm mostly here to see their take on the infected\clickers and for the chernobyl director, i don't even like tlou story that much to care about spores being present or not.
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EruditeHobo
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Well it's really simple... the number one thing that people who run shows like this care about is performance. As long as a person fits a general "type" -- which both of these actors do, very obviously -- the performance is what matters. So they probably killed it, and like you said the reviews are evidence of as much.
What's much, much weirder is caring about and prioritizing the subjective beauty or ethnically viability of someone who is playing a character in a different medium? This says a lot more about you than anything else, it's a real tell on yourself moment for anyone who care about this kind of thing. Shockingly immature perspective on cinematic storytelling.
But I guess if you can't help it, you can't help it.
elcapitano
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Not me who posted but from what I can see In June 2022 they stated it had sold over 10 million earlier in the year.
So sometime in early 2022 it hit 10 million is what it sounds like.
Probably somewhere between 11.8 and 13 by now I would guess.
Coulomb_Barrier
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Empire Magazine giving it 5/5 and calling it a 'masterpiece' is quite shocking. You'd think such film connosiuers would look down on something based on a Vidya game.
https://www.empireonline.com/tv/reviews/the-last-of-us/
https://www.empireonline.com/tv/reviews/the-last-of-us/
SenjutsuSage
Halo TV Series Promoter - Live from: Reach
I'm gonna have to disagree man. Season 1 of Halo was fantastic to me. I see that entire thing differently from others. And a ton of other people really liked the show also. The chorus of people who dislike it are in the minority. It was by far the #1 show on Paramount because people enjoyed it. Among those who don't like it, I kinda suspected they'd be a harder sell because of specific creative decisions that I feel were absolutely necessary for a universe like Halo to work as part of a TV show. One season simply isn't enough to fully form what Halo is and can be as a show. I believe the job before The Last of Us is not as daunting.
The Last of Us is a far easier universe to craft into a very successful show than a sci-fi space adventure involving biologically enhanced super soldiers vs a genocidal alien empire in a battle over ancient alien technology show. But among those who like it and are willing to give it a chance, it actually does a very good job of capturing and framing the foundation for what will be the Halo Universe. Halo has tons of mysteries around it. It never made sense to me how the Covenant upon learning what they did about humanity didn't keep themselves a solid stock of humans necessary for the purpose of activating forerunner tech. Halo's TV show cleverly solves that dilemma or major hole, at least for now. They could introduce it later in some more creative and limited fashion.
But I won't derail. This is all about this obviously incredible series. I fully expect it to be fantastic, and the cast is indeed top notch. The advertising for it is everywhere. You can't not see it on TV.
Represent.
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Yoboman
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It's not that deep, the spores aren't there because they want the actors showing their faces in scenes that require tension and horror against the infected. It's a creative adaptation that helps with the product being a TV show
GymWolf
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I guess that's a good explanation, but it's not like didn't had serials or films where actors showed their emotions even with masks on (and these are semi-transparent masks where you can still see a good portion of the face), it's not like locations with spores are where the majority of actions scenes happen, even in the games they are a very small but distnctive part.
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Darkmakaimura
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Looks like it's a success according to Rotten Tomatoes.
Good thing too, since you wouldn't want a rotten tomato on a bigot sandwich.
Good thing too, since you wouldn't want a rotten tomato on a bigot sandwich.
Mibu no ookami
Member
I'm glad you liked it, but it has an average rating of a 6.7 from critics, a 5/10 from top critics, and 2.9/5 from users. To suggest that only the minority of people disliked it, is a bit disingenuous.
As far as being the #1 show on Paramount. Can you tell me the #2 show on Paramount?
The Last of Us might win awards, to suggest that was "easy" is also disingenuous. Casting, adapting the script, cinematography, budget, direction, acting... none of that is easy.
I don't think based on the genre that it has the ability to match House of the Dragon. Being a "zombie" show is going to derail it for A LOT of people. Ultimately, it would be successful if it is half as popular.
That's really playing semantics since the very same people who were involved are the people who are in fact running PlayStation Productions but as a full on subsidiary of SIE. Asad Qizilbash has worked for SIE since 2008 and has worked for Sony since 2005 (SCEA before Sony Electronics)...His previous title was VP of Global Marketing and his role was "Responsible for transforming PlayStation’s portfolio of gaming brands into global entertainment franchises." since 2017.
That's really not how it works anymore.
Dr.Morris79
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I've read some pompous shit in my time but thats certainly up there.
EruditeHobo
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Yeah... the people who make a living telling stories tend to be somewhat high-minded about those details.
And on the other hand, clowns whine about how a character doesn't look exactly like they did in the video game the story is based on.
EruditeHobo
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Because it's the best way for a show to make a more sustained media and cultural impact.
Binging makes it really easy for everyone to just move on to the next thing like mindless consumers.
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Bella Ramsey is 19 years old for starters, its not about in your words "wanting a 14 year old to be attractive", its about wanting the show to have the same vibe as game I enjoyed.
The looks of a character play a big part of how we perceive and enjoy the story. i.e. Ellie small feminine, Joel is her protector vs Abbie big strong masculine is one such example.
Switch around those character models , how do you think that impacts the vibe of the story?
My point was that the casting didn't seem good when it was announced, Joel a white guy played by a guy born in Chile and Ellie played by a women who doesn't look anything like her, gives off a different vibe, especially considering the last role I remembered was from GOT.
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ZehDon
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The bolded is conjecture that feeds into itself. We know that, as of June 2022, TLOU2 has sold more than 10 million copies. We don't know exactly when it hit 10 million, so we can't use it to try and establish sales momentum, which is what you've done by asserting "early 2022". Naughty Dog have only released franchise numbers since, which include the TLOUP1 PS5 remaster. If TLOU2 was pushing 14 million sales today, that means it would have shifted ~4 million units in six months two years after launch. That would be setting industry records and Sony would be announcing it in the lead up to this very show.
tmlDan
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the character is 14, still weird.
Yoboman
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I think what they've replaced it with is quite interesting. They are using the tendrils that wrap across the walls and floors where the cordycep dies as something that can infect you and alert other infected if its touched, which could add a lot of visual drama rather than slapping on a mask
Sounds like you need to work through some things.
Anyway I'm done with this topic, looking forward to watching the show.
97% RT score would have had me watching even if I had never played the games.
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TheThreadsThatBindUs
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I guess this is a pretty strong vindication for the best writers and directors in the games industry, against all those who foolishly claimed that the best videogame stories are worse than average movies and TV shows.
It was patently false back when those goons were saying it here on Gaf. And this proves its patently false now... and even snobby movie and TV critics agree.
It was patently false back when those goons were saying it here on Gaf. And this proves its patently false now... and even snobby movie and TV critics agree.
MiguelItUp
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Glad to see it's getting getting good reviews. I'm still gonna check it out without any expectations. I really loved the first game, especially at the time. So it'll be great to see a solid TV show adaptation of it. It could be a great example for other video game related shows and movies in the future.
I wish I enjoyed the sequel just as much.
I wish I enjoyed the sequel just as much.
SenjutsuSage
Halo TV Series Promoter - Live from: Reach
The Last of Us is an easier piece of fiction to turn into a successful show than is Halo, which involves space aliens, ancient alien weapons and artifacts, and biologically enhanced super soldiers. There's nothing controversial or disingenuous about a factual statement. In no way does it take credit away from all the work done on the show. Also, I don't take critic and user scores seriously, especially when you have the kind of pettiness that translates to sabotaged user reviews, which almost certainly transpired with that halo show.
Halo was the #1 show, the most watched thing on paramount plus in 2022 despite very strong competition.
https://www.thegamer.com/halo-most-watched-paramount-plus-show-2022/
remember_spinal
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people are really upset about this show reviewing well, huh?
iHaunter
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I like the way stranger things did it best.
Bragr
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What do you think about Marvel and DC movies?
begotten
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They're not Xbox related so he can't do mental gymnastics over them and say they're fantastic.
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SenjutsuSage
Halo TV Series Promoter - Live from: Reach
I enjoy them for what they are.
Man, the marketing on this series has been nothing short of incredible. There is nowhere you can go without seeing it.
Mibu no ookami
Member
Is there any evidence that people would use pro masks?
93xfan
Member
All fans of gaming should want this to be good.
I was about to say, now do uncharted, but sadly remembered they already did
Mibu no ookami
Member
Yup so many claimed that it couldn't compete directly with tv/movies...
EverydayBeast
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First saw Pedro Pascal in the mandalorian, then Wonder Woman.