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[Eddie-Griffin]

https://www.sohu.com/a/651856057_25...8402800010DA5oXoZ_324&_trans_=000011_hwzy_llq

in the fourth week of February 2023, nearly 90% of the world's VR·AR headset market has been occupied by Sony Interactive Entertainment, and the sales of PSVR1/2 have accounted for 89.2% of the market. The release of the PSVR2 became a major reason for its popularity.

Sony Interactive Entertainment’s PSVR2 head display has shown a good momentum as early as the pre-order period. In the fourth week of January 26 after the start of the pre-order, the market share has reached 74.9%, allowing other companies to work hard in the VR head display market for several years HTC and other big manufacturers are envious. In addition to its strong hardware performance and excellent design, of course, Sony Interactive Entertainment’s game resources and human connection are also one of the important factors for PSVR2’s best-selling.

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/fcbd6631f198d55372893fa569017ba292e26529

PSVR2, dedicated to PlayStation 5 (PS5), got off to a good start from the start of reservations. As of January 4th, including January 26th when reservations started, SIE already recorded a 74.9% market share. It surpassed three companies, Elecom , Meta Platforms, and Pico Technology , and took the top spot for the first time in 135 weeks since the week of June 22, 2020. After that, the market share remained around 40%, but the market share surged again in the 4th week of February, which includes the release date of February 22nd. It reached 89.2%, just before 90%. PSVR2, which is essential for the PS5 main unit, is mainly used for games for the time being. In order to maintain and expand sales, it is essential to spread the PS5 console and expand the lineup of PSVR exclusive content. However, if cooperation with other VR compatible services progresses, further demand can be expected.

The Japanese VR market has released it's data regarding the PSVR2, one of the smaller but more unique VR markets that may be possibly looking at new growth, at least so far.

As you can see by the colored lines on the chart, before PSVR2 took off (they are counting pre-launch preorder sales) on January 26th, which is when Japanese preorders started, the VR market was led by a domestic company called Elecom, which surpassed Zuckers Quest VR at the start of the first week in January. Elecom seemed to have had at the peak controlling close to 55% of the japanese VR market, with Quest in decline with less than 30% of the market, before PlayStation VR2 helped Sony VR sales take off.

Then we see in January 26th during the 4th week of the month, the bottled up hype and excitement for PSVR2, blowing up the pre-orders and seeing Sony VR sales (PSVR1 and PSVR2 combined, but mostly PSVR2 of course) skyrocket to 74.9% domestically, followed by the other 3 major players all having deep dives at the same time. Then around the PSVR2's Feb 22 launch, we saw Sony peak in the 4th week gaining almost 90% marketshare with 89.2%.

While there are no numbers anywhere giving us any idea of how much this translates to unit sales, it at least indicates a strong start from launch (really Jan 26th) until the first week of March where there's a slight downslant, but with Sony still controlling 70% marketshare. Now, it's a matter of if Sony has enough to keep PVR2 momentum going in March and beyond, which is the big question, or if this will be a frontloaded exception. So far so good.

From the looks of the chart, all the competitors totally collapsed on week 4 when Sony's marketshare peaked, but then rebounded when Sony dropped down a bit at the start of March. which makes me wonder how low sales are at the bottom of the chart, and how high at the top.

Regardless, If Sony can stop that slant from getting worse, and finds a way to keep momentum going in March, it will likely keep dominating in Japan if they play their cards right. They have a golden opportunity to be long term market leader right now in the country.

 

[feynoob]

I heard from someone that water is wet.

 

[Crayon]

Well it just came out and it's the most interesting/high profile headset to come out for a long time now. Since the quest 2. Also, reviews have been universaly happy and the launch lineup is stong out of the gate. So neat to hear but should be expected. Will be more interesting to see next month after all the early adopters already ran out and got theirs.

 

[mckmas8808]

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Need absolute numbers from the data sites. %'s dont mean much.

 

[Ozriel]

From the looks of the chart, all the competitors totally collapsed on week 4 when Sony's marketshare peaked

...It's a percentage chart. Not sure if 'collapsed' is apt when they could very well be selling at the same rate.

 

[Three]

These are weekly percentages, not marketshare. It's pretty obvious that a newly launched headset would have more sales.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

These are weekly percentages, not marketshare. It's pretty obvious that a newly launched headset would have more sales.

exactly.

 

[Fbh]

The japanese VR market will be won by whoever lets you play in first person as the tentacles in a hentai game, and I doubt that will be Sony.

 

[mckmas8808]

These are weekly percentages, not marketshare. It's pretty obvious that a newly launched headset would have more sales.

It didn't "have" to happen. It could have been a mega flop.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

How the hell is the Pico still being manufactured? That's the Sega Pico, right? It's been like three decades!

Spoiler

I know it's not the Sega Pico.

 

[Three]

It didn't "have" to happen. It could have been a mega flop.

That's true but I was referring to the idea that they control 90% of the market or that their competitors collapsed. Competitors could have increased sales but still be lower in percentage for a given moment in time near PSVR2 launch.

 

[lukilladog]

Are you getting paid to post VR news?.

 

[mckmas8808]

Are you getting paid to post VR news?.

I don't care if he is, because I know I'm going to have EVERY VR news item on GAF every week just by following Eddie-Griffin . So keep up the good work Eddie.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I don't care if he is, because I know I'm going to have EVERY VR news item on GAF every week just by following Eddie-Griffin . So keep up the good work Eddie.

If it wasnt for Eddie's VR threads, most gamers on GAF wouldnt even knw what's going on regarding VR.

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

These are weekly percentages, not marketshare.

Site marks it as marketshare.

That's true but I was referring to the idea that they control 90% of the market or that their competitors collapsed. Competitors could have increased sales but still be lower in percentage for a given moment in time near PSVR2 launch.

Issue with this theory is the Quest was already declining while Sonys market share was in the gutter. Then at the end somehow Pico came form the bottom and passed Quest and Elecom. Sure, Sony taking off would have some effect on their chart positions, but it looks like sales dropped for the other competition, and somehow Pico in the end came out of the rebound leading.

This tells me that numbers have to be pretty low to be that far down the chart. Then Pico, being at the bottom where Sony used to be at the start of the chart, somehow comes back past the other two, which also indicates sales collapsed, and Pico has better recovery from Quest and Elecom who were both leading and even at the start of the chart. Also, unlike part of the middle section, in the end Sony had a bitter slant down significantly than the gains the bottom 3 did.

That is why March is going to be important to see where Sony really ends up falling to and we see where the real trend line is.

 

[ReBurn]

I bet we're talking thousands of units here. Thousands!

 

[Deerock71]

I don't care if he is, because I know I'm going to have EVERY VR news item on GAF every week just by following Eddie-Griffin . So keep up the good work Eddie.

Eddie VeddeR

 

[Crayon]

I don't care if he is, because I know I'm going to have EVERY VR news item on GAF every week just by following Eddie-Griffin . So keep up the good work Eddie.

Yeah you won't miss a thing. That's good to get all the reports no matter how backwater or insignificant so you can form an unbiased opinion.

Oh except this one: The global virtual reality market size was valued at USD 21.83 billion in 2021 and is expected to expand at a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 15.0% from 2022 to 2030.

And this one: The global virtual reality market is projected to grow from $16.67 billion in 2022 to $227.34 billion by 2029, at a CAGR of 45.2% in the forecast period 2022-2029... Read More at:- https://www.fortunebusinessinsights.com/industry-reports/virtual-reality-market-101378

Oh my, this one, too: The phenomenal rise of demand in VR in e-learning and medical training

Hey, wait. What's going on here?: There has been a rapid growth in VR and AR gamers worldwide, expanding the market horizon.

Damn. I don't know how Eddie missed all these.

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

Yeah you won't miss a thing. That's good to get all the reports no matter how backwater or insignificant so you can form an unbiased opinion.

Oh except this one: The global virtual reality market size was valued at USD 21.83 billion in 2021 and is expected to expand at a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 15.0% from 2022 to 2030.

And this one: The global virtual reality market is projected to grow from $16.67 billion in 2022 to $227.34 billion by 2029, at a CAGR of 45.2% in the forecast period 2022-2029... Read More at:- https://www.fortunebusinessinsights.com/industry-reports/virtual-reality-market-101378

Oh my, this one, too: The phenomenal rise of demand in VR in e-learning and medical training

Hey, wait. What's going on here?: There has been a rapid growth in VR and AR gamers worldwide, expanding the market horizon.

Damn. I don't know how Eddie missed all these.

A pointless projection based on two years ago.

A pointless projection up until 2029 from the source that said 2022 was going to have a big gain when it ended up down 20.9%

The third one has nothing to do with gaming, or companies involving gaming in some way in the content or adoption which may involve gaming indirectly.

The 4th one actually doesn't say what you imply, and in fact, after that exact sentence which you took out of context, it announces a bunch of sources that were "projecting" growth that all but one (neutral) were wrong on 2022. Much of these aren't even "news"

What did I miss again?

 

[Crayon]

A pointless projection based on two years ago.

A pointless projection up until 2029 from the source that said 2022 was going to have a big gain when it ended up down 20.9%

The third one has nothing to do with gaming, or companies involving gaming in some way in the content or adoption which may involve gaming indirectly.

The 4th one actually doesn't say what you imply, and in fact, after that exact sentence which you took out of context, it announces a bunch of sources that were "projecting" growth that all but one (neutral) were wrong on 2022. Much of these aren't even "news"

What did I miss again?

Lighten up dude I just got everything off the top of the search. I wasn't exactly scraping the bottom of the barrel. In fact, I don't think we have anyone here who's going to go scouring the net for positive VR articles. But at least we have you!

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

In fact, I don't think we have anyone here who's going to go scouring the net for positive VR articles. But at least we have you!

I've posted quite a few of those but you and some other people seem to only see the ones that aren't for some reason.

I bet we're talking thousands of units here. Thousands!

I'm assuming Japans VR market is at least a couple hundred thousand, but yeah, we are likely dealing with thousands, maybe low tens of thousands.

Still, if PSVR2 can possibly help with VR growth in Japan that could only be good for VR in Japan, since it seems Elecom and Quest didn't really do much there overall for VR growth. The again, with mobile and Switch being kings there and non-gaming not having many apps over there, buying VR at the current costs to play games may be a tougher sell there than other places.

 

[ReBurn]

I've posted quite a few of those but you and some other people seem to only see the ones that aren't for some reason.



I'm assuming Japans VR market is at least a couple hundred thousand, but yeah, we are likely dealing with thousands, maybe low tens of thousands.

Still, if PSVR2 can possibly help with VR growth in Japan that could only be good for VR in Japan, since it seems Elecom and Quest didn't really do much there overall for VR growth. The again, with mobile and Switch being kings there and non-gaming not having many apps over there, buying VR at the current costs to play games may be a tougher sell there than other places.

I hope it helps with VR growth in general. It's just funny how articles always use statistics to make things seem larger than they probably really are.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Yeah you won't miss a thing. That's good to get all the reports no matter how backwater or insignificant so you can form an unbiased opinion.

Oh except this one: The global virtual reality market size was valued at USD 21.83 billion in 2021 and is expected to expand at a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 15.0% from 2022 to 2030.

And this one: The global virtual reality market is projected to grow from $16.67 billion in 2022 to $227.34 billion by 2029, at a CAGR of 45.2% in the forecast period 2022-2029... Read More at:- https://www.fortunebusinessinsights.com/industry-reports/virtual-reality-market-101378

Oh my, this one, too: The phenomenal rise of demand in VR in e-learning and medical training

Hey, wait. What's going on here?: There has been a rapid growth in VR and AR gamers worldwide, expanding the market horizon.

Damn. I don't know how Eddie missed all these.

Projections mean nothing.

When weed stocks were the rage 5 years ago, analysts were saying by 2025 it'll be a $250 billion industry. Ya, $250 billion at retail prices. I dont think all the weed companies combined even have $2.5 billion sales at wholesale prices (which is probably $5 billion at retail).

Who knows, maybe the industry will 50x itself in the next two years. lol

 

[DenchDeckard]

12 vr headsets sold!

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

Projections mean nothing.

When weed stocks were the rage 5 years ago, analysts were saying by 2025 it'll be a $250 billion industry. Ya, $250 billion at retail prices. I dont think all the weed companies combined even have $2.5 billion sales at wholesale prices (which is probably $5 billion at retail).

Who knows, maybe the industry will 50x itself in the next two years. lol

Reading between the lines, it may be why some companies and analyst firms are reacting to Apple's headset, even though while confirmed in many different ways, has still yet to have been officially shown or announced. Yet there's like what, 7 headsets reacting via trying to beat them at their game, one of which is releasing in April to rush ahead of them, HTC is claiming they "aren't scared" after moving to XR because of the Apple stuff, and Meta and a few others are also moving toward the motion control direction because of them as well.

Maybe Apple might actually cause VR numerical headset growth. Except if that does happen, is it really growth if we just see consolidation again just with a new headset instead of the Quest 2? Sure if Apple in 5-6 years sells 50 million VR headsets (lol) hypothetically, that's technically growth, but if everyone else combined is less than 1 million or LESS in that same period, can one say the industry would be healthy?

Of course, there is Samsung, which what I fear may happen if both succeeded, is we just have the Android Duoploy in VR. Something I would rather not see.

 

[Gameplay Gods Bless]

Are you getting paid to post VR news?.

Nothing wrong with posting video game industry stuff you're interested in.

 

[poppabk]

Site marks it as marketshare.



Issue with this theory is the Quest was already declining while Sonys market share was in the gutter. Then at the end somehow Pico came form the bottom and passed Quest and Elecom. Sure, Sony taking off would have some effect on their chart positions, but it looks like sales dropped for the other competition, and somehow Pico in the end came out of the rebound leading.

This tells me that numbers have to be pretty low to be that far down the chart. Then Pico, being at the bottom where Sony used to be at the start of the chart, somehow comes back past the other two, which also indicates sales collapsed, and Pico has better recovery from Quest and Elecom who were both leading and even at the start of the chart. Also, unlike part of the middle section, in the end Sony had a bitter slant down significantly than the gains the bottom 3 did.

That is why March is going to be important to see where Sony really ends up falling to and we see where the real trend line is.

Eddie take some math classes, seriously. Even a blind man can see that isn't 'marketshare' as in share of install base.
As for the rest I really don't think you understand how percentages work.

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

Eddie take some math classes, seriously. Even a blind man can see that isn't 'marketshare'

Arguing against something the article says that I'm quoting doesn't make much sense.

As for the rest I really don't think you understand how percentages work.

It's almost like in what you quoted I didn't even mention percentages and you imagined it.

You seem to be having issue understanding lines at the bottom of the chart are lower than lines at the top of the chart.

 

[Roufianos]

Dude, no offence, but this is a contender for most boring news ever.

 

[poppabk]

Arguing against something the article says that I'm quoting doesn't make much sense.



It's almost like in what you quoted I didn't even mention percentages and you imagined it.

You seem to be having issue understanding lines at the bottom of the chart are lower than lines at the top of the chart.

It makes total sense to question the terminology if percentage of weekly sales makes complete sense and percentage of total market would require a set of completely insane circumstances so as to be almost completely impossible.
Also the graph is literally a graph of percentages.

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

It makes total sense to question the terminology

No you were trying to attack me, not elaborating on your disagreement/questioning the terminology.

You can find all additional info by clicking on the link. If you believe it or not is fine.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Need absolute numbers from the data sites. %'s dont mean much.

Indeed, eh?

How many minutes played, and bullets fired?